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wrx_snobordr · 07-26-2006, 03:12 PM

Ok, so there is this old bastard who works in my office. He has his thing where he thinks he is above everyone and therefore can smoke his cigar in a closed air building. From what i hear he has had blow outs with others regarding this and he continues to do it. I myself have walkd up to him and told him to put it out to which he said "im not smoking it". So, short of walking up to him with a fire extinguisher and getting fired what are my options? Does anyone know if i can call the cops or the fire dept to fine this ****er? His son is the head guy here and he has said something but really, does a son ever have control of his dad, so going to him is pointless.

I am so close to fliping out, this is the most ignorant thing i have ever had to deal with. how can he think its even remotley close to ok to subject 50 some peole to his smoke just because he feels like taking a few puffs. Rant off.....

03sLoMaX · 07-26-2006, 03:16 PM

blow up the building when he is in it

D Money · 07-26-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 03sLoMaX

blow up the building when he is in it

haha if he makes it out just stab him.

deblas66 · 07-26-2006, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrx_snobordr

Ok, so there is this old bastard who works in my office. He has his thing where he thinks he is above everyone and therefore can smoke his cigar in a closed air building. From what i hear he has had blow outs with others regarding this and he continues to do it. I myself have walkd up to him and told him to put it out to which he said "im not smoking it". So, short of walking up to him with a fire extinguisher and getting fired what are my options? Does anyone know if i can call the cops or the fire dept to fine this ****er? His son is the head guy here and he has said something but really, does a son ever have control of his dad, so going to him is pointless.

I am so close to fliping out, this is the most ignorant thing i have ever had to deal with. how can he think its even remotley close to ok to subject 50 some peole to his smoke just because he feels like taking a few puffs. Rant off.....

If you're in NY, then it's illegal.

I would talk to the son politely and inform him that you would rather not have to take it any further than this but that he needs to stop.

He has zero legs to stand on.

driftingeric2k4 · 07-26-2006, 03:23 PM

If it really bothers you, speak to your supervisor. If you have a human resources department, speak to them as well. document the time and place for both meetings, and what was discussed. If nothing is done, I dont know what legal body is directed to enforce the smoking ban, but I am sure a call to your local PD would get you the info you need.

Dont ruffle feathers, because what will happen if you dont give your company a clearly DOCUMENTED chance at telling this guy to stop this behavior and following through on it is that you will get the COMPANY in trouble. Sure the guy will get in trouble as well - but you will take flack as well. Keep it internal, document what you have done. If nothing changes, contact the authorities.

the documentation is to cover your azz if they fire you for getting the company fined for a code violation.

In the corporate world, politics is EVERYTHING so DO NOT stoop to his level and do office guerilla tactics like supergluing the guys cigar to his lips. Be professional and do it the right way.

EDIT to add: I'm from NY. Smoking in any building is illegal. No company would be dumb enough to allow this behavior.

poolmike · 07-26-2006, 03:47 PM

Nexttime he lights one up, tell him to put it out. If he resists, quickly grab ahold on his nose with one hand and shove the cigar down his throat and clamp his mouth closed with the other. After around 20 seconds he'll be choking real good and turning several different colors. At that point, let go and say ' see dude, smoking IS hazardous to your health'

I did that to one of my helpers in a customer's back yard after he argued that smoking doesn't hurt anything. He NEVER lit one up near me again..ever.

wrx_snobordr · 07-26-2006, 03:49 PM

This is a non-smoking building but im sure if it is illegal per-say in pennsylvania. I think at this point its more of a bulding decision along with being against the fire code, but nothing that specifially states in law that smoking in a building is illegal.

Intercooled T · 07-26-2006, 03:50 PM

Tell HR, they have to make him put it out, it's their job.

300zTT · 07-26-2006, 03:50 PM

take pictures of the ****er smoking then use that aginst him( blackmale hahaha) im pretty sure u cant smoke in any public place in nj any more either so contact the police and find out

igo4bmx · 07-26-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Intercooled T

Tell HR, they have to make him put it out, it's their job.

agreed- or deal with the building owner, or the local police.

Scapegoat · 07-26-2006, 04:11 PM

PIITB

Or, give him an exploding cigar

04PAcruz'n · 07-26-2006, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftingeric2k4

If it really bothers you, speak to your supervisor. If you have a human resources department, speak to them as well. document the time and place for both meetings, and what was discussed. If nothing is done, I dont know what legal body is directed to enforce the smoking ban, but I am sure a call to your local PD would get you the info you need.

Dont ruffle feathers, because what will happen if you dont give your company a clearly DOCUMENTED chance at telling this guy to stop this behavior and following through on it is that you will get the COMPANY in trouble. Sure the guy will get in trouble as well - but you will take flack as well. Keep it internal, document what you have done. If nothing changes, contact the authorities.

the documentation is to cover your azz if they fire you for getting the company fined for a code violation.

In the corporate world, politics is EVERYTHING so DO NOT stoop to his level and do office guerilla tactics like supergluing the guys cigar to his lips. Be professional and do it the right way.

EDIT to add: I'm from NY. Smoking in any building is illegal. No company would be dumb enough to allow this behavior.

x2! This is the best advice.

The only way this guy can get away with it is if he is related to the owner. other than that no individual employees habits are bigger than the company as a whole. he will be told to stop or they will show him the door.

wrx_snobordr · 07-26-2006, 04:30 PM

yeah and sonny boy is the head guy and he just let is slip past. he says things to his dad and his dad will ay ok, i wont smoke anymore and is lighting up as he walks out the door. Its a nice little charade for his benefit and not ours. I am sitting here right now smelling it.

Scapegoat · 07-26-2006, 04:37 PM

start smoking? pass out cigars to everyone in the office. See if the boss likes it then

peteyturbo · 07-26-2006, 09:24 PM

In short, he is a higher upper and you are a peon. He can pretty much do whatever if his son could care less. I would get him back with some awesome office pranks.

james_ls · 07-26-2006, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftingeric2k4

If it really bothers you, speak to your supervisor. If you have a human resources department, speak to them as well. document the time and place for both meetings, and what was discussed. If nothing is done, I dont know what legal body is directed to enforce the smoking ban, but I am sure a call to your local PD would get you the info you need.

Dont ruffle feathers, because what will happen if you dont give your company a clearly DOCUMENTED chance at telling this guy to stop this behavior and following through on it is that you will get the COMPANY in trouble. Sure the guy will get in trouble as well - but you will take flack as well. Keep it internal, document what you have done. If nothing changes, contact the authorities.

the documentation is to cover your azz if they fire you for getting the company fined for a code violation.

In the corporate world, politics is EVERYTHING so DO NOT stoop to his level and do office guerilla tactics like supergluing the guys cigar to his lips. Be professional and do it the right way.

EDIT to add: I'm from NY. Smoking in any building is illegal. No company would be dumb enough to allow this behavior.

X3 for the LEGIT way to deal with this...

reaper23 · 07-27-2006, 12:45 AM

Install a smoke detector above his desk.

den9 · 07-27-2006, 01:48 AM

definetly do some pranks, rig his lighter so he lights his eyebrows off, put some nasty smelly chit in his desk

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/officepranks.html

BlackBulletTSi · 07-27-2006, 03:46 AM

If its in PA like it seems then hey there really is no law against it in PA yet. Also if his sons the head and doesn't care sorry you really can't tell him to stop. I think you can maybe start a petition though that might help iono hasn't been brought up but you know start one get all those to sign it bring it to the son if nothings done let the office pranks begin. But thats only as a last resort

JoeScooby · 07-27-2006, 07:30 AM

put a ladyfinger in his cigar, while he is smoking it.. BAMMMMMMMM, blows that ish up.

Ladyfinger = tiny firecracker big enough to blow up fire fly's and leave smeared glowing goop on the sidewalk.

07-26-2006, 03:12 PM	#1
wrx_snobordr Tri-State Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Member #21 iTrader: (1)	Options for dealing with a problem... Ok, so there is this old bastard who works in my office. He has his thing where he thinks he is above everyone and therefore can smoke his cigar in a closed air building. From what i hear he has had blow outs with others regarding this and he continues to do it. I myself have walkd up to him and told him to put it out to which he said "im not smoking it". So, short of walking up to him with a fire extinguisher and getting fired what are my options? Does anyone know if i can call the cops or the fire dept to fine this ****er? His son is the head guy here and he has said something but really, does a son ever have control of his dad, so going to him is pointless. I am so close to fliping out, this is the most ignorant thing i have ever had to deal with. how can he think its even remotley close to ok to subject 50 some peole to his smoke just because he feels like taking a few puffs. Rant off..... __________________ Stock

07-26-2006, 03:47 PM	#6
poolmike Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Richboro Member #543 My Ride: '68 Kaiser M715/ '37 Ford truck/'47 Dodge truck iTrader: (0)	Nexttime he lights one up, tell him to put it out. If he resists, quickly grab ahold on his nose with one hand and shove the cigar down his throat and clamp his mouth closed with the other. After around 20 seconds he'll be choking real good and turning several different colors. At that point, let go and say ' see dude, smoking IS hazardous to your health' I did that to one of my helpers in a customer's back yard after he argued that smoking doesn't hurt anything. He NEVER lit one up near me again..ever. __________________ 2012 Honda Accord Touring 1968 Kaiser M715 FrankenJeep 1947 Dodge 1.5 Ton Resto-mod 1937 Ford pick-up 1950 Crosley Farm-o-Road

07-26-2006, 03:49 PM	#7
wrx_snobordr Tri-State Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Member #21 iTrader: (1)	This is a non-smoking building but im sure if it is illegal per-say in pennsylvania. I think at this point its more of a bulding decision along with being against the fire code, but nothing that specifially states in law that smoking in a building is illegal. __________________ Stock

07-26-2006, 03:50 PM	#8
Intercooled T Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fairless Hills, PA Member #207 My Ride: 2003 Toyota Rav4 iTrader: (0)	Tell HR, they have to make him put it out, it's their job. __________________ 2003 Toyota Rav4, 2.0L/Auto/AWD To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 2013 Nissan Juke, 1.6T/Auto/FWD (wife's car lol To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. )

07-26-2006, 04:30 PM	#13
wrx_snobordr Tri-State Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Member #21 iTrader: (1)	yeah and sonny boy is the head guy and he just let is slip past. he says things to his dad and his dad will ay ok, i wont smoke anymore and is lighting up as he walks out the door. Its a nice little charade for his benefit and not ours. I am sitting here right now smelling it. __________________ Stock

07-26-2006, 03:16 PM	#2
03sLoMaX Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hamilton NJ Member #1098 iTrader: (0)	blow up the building when he is in it

07-26-2006, 03:23 PM	#5
driftingeric2k4 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, NY Member #2026 My Ride: 2000 Ford Mustang GT/C iTrader: (0)	If it really bothers you, speak to your supervisor. If you have a human resources department, speak to them as well. document the time and place for both meetings, and what was discussed. If nothing is done, I dont know what legal body is directed to enforce the smoking ban, but I am sure a call to your local PD would get you the info you need. Dont ruffle feathers, because what will happen if you dont give your company a clearly DOCUMENTED chance at telling this guy to stop this behavior and following through on it is that you will get the COMPANY in trouble. Sure the guy will get in trouble as well - but you will take flack as well. Keep it internal, document what you have done. If nothing changes, contact the authorities. the documentation is to cover your azz if they fire you for getting the company fined for a code violation. In the corporate world, politics is EVERYTHING so DO NOT stoop to his level and do office guerilla tactics like supergluing the guys cigar to his lips. Be professional and do it the right way. EDIT to add: I'm from NY. Smoking in any building is illegal. No company would be dumb enough to allow this behavior.

07-26-2006, 04:11 PM	#11
Scapegoat TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stop looking at my gold Member #1208 iTrader: (1)	PIITB Or, give him an exploding cigar

07-26-2006, 04:37 PM	#14
Scapegoat TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stop looking at my gold Member #1208 iTrader: (1)	start smoking? pass out cigars to everyone in the office. See if the boss likes it then

07-26-2006, 09:24 PM	#15
peteyturbo Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NE Phila. Member #1450 iTrader: (0)	In short, he is a higher upper and you are a peon. He can pretty much do whatever if his son could care less. I would get him back with some awesome office pranks.

07-27-2006, 12:45 AM	#17
reaper23 Noob-Jersey Join Date: Dec 2005 Member #1181 iTrader: (0)	Install a smoke detector above his desk.

07-27-2006, 01:48 AM	#18
den9 Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: doylestown Member #1198 My Ride: turbo diesel iTrader: (0)	definetly do some pranks, rig his lighter so he lights his eyebrows off, put some nasty smelly chit in his desk http://www.ebaumsworld.com/officepranks.html

07-27-2006, 03:46 AM	#19
BlackBulletTSi Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: L~Town Member #224 My Ride: 99 Eclipse GSX iTrader: (3)	If its in PA like it seems then hey there really is no law against it in PA yet. Also if his sons the head and doesn't care sorry you really can't tell him to stop. I think you can maybe start a petition though that might help iono hasn't been brought up but you know start one get all those to sign it bring it to the son if nothings done let the office pranks begin. But thats only as a last resort __________________ Check my music out at To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Recently joined record label Strike Division, new tracks to come soon. New DJ community being built, To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. COMING SOON!!

07-27-2006, 07:30 AM	#20
JoeScooby Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: McGuire AFB, NJ - Cherry Hill Member #345 My Ride: 2004 JPB Subaru WRX Sedan iTrader: (0)	put a ladyfinger in his cigar, while he is smoking it.. BAMMMMMMMM, blows that ish up. Ladyfinger = tiny firecracker big enough to blow up fire fly's and leave smeared glowing goop on the sidewalk. __________________ 2009 Dodge Ram 5.7 ltr beast 2004 Java WRX - SOLD 2005 Silver Forester XT - Wife 2014 Outback 2014 STi Hatch 2013 Yukon SLT

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