Need help removing dent

[mx931]

So last night in newtown, im sure some drunk hick backed his pick up truck into my car and left a nice dent well thank you!!
my passenger side rear door has a nice dent in it with no scratches so im gonna assume that is a newer pick up truck with the rubber back bumper or something.....ill put pictures up in a little but for now, its about 2 feet wide with the middle creese of the door bent in. I feel like there is a way to suction it out, so if someone wouldnt mind helpin me out who has experience that would be great because money is really tight when your makin $7.50 an hour
all the help the better, thanks guys
the car is a 2007 mazdaspeed3

[08SubieWrx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILVWPzO_swY

[kennwrx]

that was the best trick i"ve have seen for dents lol

[mx931]

NO doubt, but its like on the door and a lot bigger im scared the creese is gonna be too hard to fix, but for now, eh mine as well try it.

[igo4bmx]

compressed air crap doesn't work.

www.johnnydents.com

[i_ride_fieroGT]

Suction only works if its a very slight dent that can be pulled relitivley easy. Theres a place in Frazer called caristma. They guy it brilliant at pulling dents to minor paintwork. And he dose it at a pretty fair price. take it there.

[jpalamar]

Get some quotes for PDR. I know Fred Beans has a guy that does it, email them pics and they will give you a quote. I bet it will be about $100 or so.

[mx931]

i got a quote from bill marsh in newtown, 700$.... ahh NO. they said i need a new door skin?
i think im gonna get it fixed cheaply down the road...then later on, get it down right.

[DPancoast]

LIP Collision

[DC2.2GSR]

LIP is insanely priced, even for a high quality shop. This kid is trying to save money, not be raped in the pooper.

to the OP... you should have filed a police report for a hit and run, then gone to get an estimate for the repair. you can file a report and make a claim and not get it done, but at least it will be on record when you go to get it repaired later.

if you want to get it fixed either out of pocket or through insurance, your only option, if there is a crease (and 2 feet wide ), is to skin the door. that's it. no amount of PDR work can help a creased two foot wide dent. i mean, it'll make it look a little better, but not actually fix it to the point where it looks like nothing happened. once you've gotten that large of a dent, chances are pretty good that you've stretched the metal beyond the point where it can be bent back. you'll always have a visible crease.

some shops will tell you that they can shrink it and do the metal work and then fill the rest "to save you money". that's a load of crap. your car, like every japanese or newer american car has very thin sheet metal that stretches very easily and just ends up oil can-ing instead of keeping its shape when bent back. it's not at all like old cars where you can beat on a panel with a deadblow and metal work it back out to brand new again. those old cars have really thick sheet metal on them.

my advice would be to try your best to (carefully) push the dent out from behind just for a temporary fix, and then just save some money to pay your deductable and get it done right. it's a new vehicle that obviously has comp and collision so you're good. when you go to a shop, they'll get you a new door skin and blend the front door and quarter. do that as soon as possible, you don't want anything to rust if it has pushed up the coating on the inside of the door.

[LIPCOLL320]

Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR

LIP is insanely priced, even for a high quality shop. This kid is trying to save money, not be raped in the pooper.

to the OP... you should have filed a police report for a hit and run, then gone to get an estimate for the repair. you can file a report and make a claim and not get it done, but at least it will be on record when you go to get it repaired later.

if you want to get it fixed either out of pocket or through insurance, your only option, if there is a crease (and 2 feet wide ), is to skin the door. that's it. no amount of PDR work can help a creased two foot wide dent. i mean, it'll make it look a little better, but not actually fix it to the point where it looks like nothing happened. once you've gotten that large of a dent, chances are pretty good that you've stretched the metal beyond the point where it can be bent back. you'll always have a visible crease.

some shops will tell you that they can shrink it and do the metal work and then fill the rest "to save you money". that's a load of crap. your car, like every japanese or newer american car has very thin sheet metal that stretches very easily and just ends up oil can-ing instead of keeping its shape when bent back. it's not at all like old cars where you can beat on a panel with a deadblow and metal work it back out to brand new again. those old cars have really thick sheet metal on them.

my advice would be to try your best to (carefully) push the dent out from behind just for a temporary fix, and then just save some money to pay your deductable and get it done right. it's a new vehicle that obviously has comp and collision so you're good. when you go to a shop, they'll get you a new door skin and blend the front door and quarter. do that as soon as possible, you don't want anything to rust if it has pushed up the coating on the inside of the door.

Dude will you relax. Everytime someone mentions our name you trash us on how you think we are too expensive and we have done nothing to provoke it. Yeah we are not cheap, good work is not cheap, but to our knowledge there has never been one TST customer unsatisfied with our work or service and we have fixed some really particular TST member's vehicles. I have at least one TST member in here a week for repairs. No one is telling you that you have to come here and pay our prices. We have been in buisness longer than you have been alive. I think that speaks for itself.

[DC2.2GSR]

Originally Posted by LIPCOLL320

Dude will you relax. Everytime someone mentions our name you trash us on how you think we are too expensive and we have done nothing to provoke it. Yeah we are not cheap, good work is not cheap, but to our knowledge there has never been one TST customer unsatisfied with our work or service and we have fixed some really particular TST member's vehicles. I have at least one TST member in here a week for repairs. No one is telling you that you have to come here and pay our prices. We have been in buisness longer than you have been alive. I think that speaks for itself.

that's great, i'm glad you have TST people coming in and i'm glad they're leaving satisfied. you're obviously working on building a nice little following here. that doesn't mean that those peoples' wallets aren't hurting more than they should, it just means that they just don't know any better. to the same point, staying in business "longer than [I] have been alive" just means that you're good at making people think they have to pay an absurd amount just because 'good work is not cheap'. no big deal, lots of places do the same thing. people are easily molded and convinced of things, and some will automatically go to the shop that charges more because their price is higher so "they must do a better job".

honestly i'm not trying to start or continue some huge problem with you guys, it's just that every time there's a mention of LIP Collision either on TST or in a conversation with someone at a meet or whatever, it's usually followed by a price quote that's offensive to those of us in the industry who know what materials and labor cost and can do the math to figure out the ridiculous markup. that sh** bothers me and when i see it or hear of it, i'll speak up. it's simple.

i don't have a problem with you or your shop necessarily, i just have a problem with shops who put themselves on a pedestal and claim to be soooo good that no matter what the price, it's worth it. when it comes down to it, paint all costs relatively the same amount, and color only gets laid out so nicely and clear can only get so flat. after a certain point, you're just padding it to make your own wallet fatter... at the expense of the customer who doesn't know any better.

don't worry, you won't hear another word about the subject. it won't change anything anyway.

[92accordex]

I have a small dent. Little smaller then the size of a fist. I'm trying that compressed air dealio.

[mx931]

thanks DC2 you are deff right about the door skin, 2 places have told me it will need to be replaced. so by the time they put that on, match the paint and paint it and blend it in its WAY to much for what i have, and yes im trying to save money....im 17 and make 7.50 and hour HAHA

But today im gonna take the panel stuff off in the door, and try my best to pop it out for now

LIP, i will deff look into you guys more when i figure stuff out

and 92accord, good luck man doesnt it suck? its like wtf does this have to happen haha

but thanks guys

[DC2.2GSR]

Originally Posted by mx931

thanks DC2 you are deff right about the door skin, 2 places have told me it will need to be replaced. so by the time they put that on, match the paint and paint it and blend it in its WAY to much for what i have, and yes im trying to save money....im 17 and make 7.50 and hour HAHA

But today im gonna take the panel stuff off in the door, and try my best to pop it out for now

LIP, i will deff look into you guys more when i figure stuff out

and 92accord, good luck man doesnt it suck? its like wtf does this have to happen haha

but thanks guys

when you try pushing it out from the inside, don't use anything with edges. if you use anything besides your own hand, wrap a towel or something around the end to build up some padding. you don't want to crease it more than it already is.

like i said though, call your insurance agent and ask about the options you have. you can call and talk to him/her without making a claim, so it's not like you'll be locked into anything just for talking to them about it. tell them the whole story and ask about your deductible and what exactly would be covered, and then ask about the rate changes after reporting a comprehensive claim. figure all of that out and see if in the long run it would be better for you to just save the cash to get the whole job done or to save for the deductible, make a claim, and then deal with the slight rate increase.

[92accordex]

Originally Posted by mx931

thanks DC2 you are deff right about the door skin, 2 places have told me it will need to be replaced. so by the time they put that on, match the paint and paint it and blend it in its WAY to much for what i have, and yes im trying to save money....im 17 and make 7.50 and hour HAHA

But today im gonna take the panel stuff off in the door, and try my best to pop it out for now

LIP, i will deff look into you guys more when i figure stuff out

and 92accord, good luck man doesnt it suck? its like wtf does this have to happen haha

but thanks guys

haha eh its alright its real tiny but from that certain angle you can see it. haha

[Showoff03LS]

where are ya located?

[mx931]

newtown pa

[DPancoast]

Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR

when you try pushing it out from the inside, don't use anything with edges. if you use anything besides your own hand, wrap a towel or something around the end to build up some padding. you don't want to crease it more than it already is.

now I dont know anything about this stuff, so please excuse the dumb question. Is it possible by pushing it out from the inside that the panel/metal/section could be pushed to far, causing problems there as well?

[Showoff03LS]

Originally Posted by DPancoast

now I dont know anything about this stuff, so please excuse the dumb question. Is it possible by pushing it out from the inside that the panel/metal/section could be pushed to far, causing problems there as well?

yes its possible, but if u know what ur doing u can avoid all that . ive done it lots of times with out pushing the dent out too far.