Why do people think I'm trying to commit suicide? *PIX*

[Racersky]

I'm just curious as to why people that I know thinks i was trying to commit suicide when I had a little accident at an INDOOR GO-karting place in Delaware where I slipped and slit my wrist by accident.

If you see this would you assume that I attempted to commit suicide? I kept wondering why sometimes that came thought came to mind when they see a cut like this.

[tmrepp]

Ninja killin himself...no bueno

[99SL2_Modder]

I get the same thing when people look at my wrist.

Neither mine, nor yours, looks anything like a "suicide attempt"...or what I call "give me attention" marks.

[Scapegoat]

Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder

Neither mine, nor yours, looks anything like a "suicide attempt"...or what I call "give me attention" marks.

a) you're an asshole for the second part of this comment

and

b) you're 100% incorrect. Between the muscles and tendons in that section of the arm you're more than likely NOT going to have a straight cut from the base of your wrist up your forearm

[omgjacki]

Jerry, we all know you're unhappy, but suicide is not the answer.

[[sr20]sean]

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

a) you're an asshole for the second part of this comment

and

b) you're 100% incorrect. Between the muscles and tendons in that section of the arm you're more than likely NOT going to have a straight cut from the base of your wrist up your forearm

all i got to say is i agree

[dragonfly2k3]

Originally Posted by dcr1d3r13

all i got to say is i agree

I agree with part B. If you guys seriously think that some kids dont nick themselves up to get attention you might be retarded.

[supraghost]

Originally Posted by dragonfly2k3

I agree with part B. If you guys seriously think that some kids dont nick themselves up to get attention you might be retarded.

true, but i dont think "give me attention marks" is an apprpriate way to describe them. Their issues are much deeper and classifying them in that way is ignorant to the real situation

[[sr20]sean]

Originally Posted by dragonfly2k3

I agree with part B. If you guys seriously think that some kids dont nick themselves up to get attention you might be retarded.

no there are deffinatly kids who do that but those kids that do it for attention go across the wrist(95% of the time). nobody that wants just attention would go up the arm and actually risk killing themselves. also if someone cuts their wrist and openly admits that they were cutting themselves (other then after their situation is over) then they are mostly doing it for attention. i passed mine off as "scratches from pricker bushes when i was doing yard work." then it took like a year to admit that i did it to myself. and i wasnt the kind of kid that sat there and cried in the corner every day and sat to myself at school. i probly fooled alot of people into thinking there was nothing wrong with me.



edit: i left something out.
you might say that well if they are gonna commit suicide why dont they do it in a different or more "successfull" way. the reason is that when you get to that stage where you would do it is that you want to feel ANYTHING. at this point your brain and body are just craving to feel something. i would probly associate it to the feeling of going several weeks or months without having sex or doing anything pertaining to sex where you get that craving of it really bad. thats what happens with these people. yes they have emotions but the emotions feel like absolutly nothing to them so what they want is to usually feel pain before they die.

im starting to think i should become a psychiatrist

Originally Posted by supraghost

true, but i dont think "give me attention marks" is an apprpriate way to describe them. Their issues are much deeper and classifying them in that way is ignorant to the real situation

thank you. someone gets it

[Scapegoat]

yeah, up the arm is not a "I want attention" more like... "I need attention from a professional"... up the arm is serious ****...

and no, I've never done it... but I'm intelligent enough to know the difference between a thought out, real, suicide attempt and a "my parents hate me, my girlfriend dumped me, i'm an emo fag" teen anxiety cut.

[TurboTagTeam]

There's a huge cut up your arm dummy.....that's why people think your trying to off yourself.


Why do people think I'm going to rob the bank when I walk in wearing a ski-mask and holding an AR-15?

[ITSTOCK]

Give me attention marks about sums it up.


As to your cut, it's pretty noticeable, and it's on your wrist. If you don't get cut (like me) every day working, I could see how someone would ASSUME that you tried getting attention.

But you already know this, so WTF is the point? Were you really just trying to show off that sissy little cut?

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by supraghost

true, but i dont think "give me attention marks" is an apprpriate way to describe them. Their issues are much deeper and classifying them in that way is ignorant to the real situation

No, it's not ignorant. People who ATTEMPT to commit suicide want attention, no ifs, ands or buts about it. People who commit suicide are the most selfish people there are. There is no argument.

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

yeah, up the arm is not a "I want attention" more like... "I need attention from a professional"... up the arm is serious ****...

and no, I've never done it... but I'm intelligent enough to know the difference between a thought out, real, suicide attempt and a "my parents hate me, my girlfriend dumped me, i'm an emo fag" teen anxiety cut.

Yea, it's real difficult to kill yourself . If someone REALLY wanted to kill themselves, it's as easy as stepping in front of a train like my friend did. Talk about selfish.

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by dcr1d3r13

edit: i left something out.
you might say that well if they are gonna commit suicide why dont they do it in a different or more "successfull" way. the reason is that when you get to that stage where you would do it is that you want to feel ANYTHING. at this point your brain and body are just craving to feel something. i would probly associate it to the feeling of going several weeks or months without having sex or doing anything pertaining to sex where you get that craving of it really bad. thats what happens with these people. yes they have emotions but the emotions feel like absolutly nothing to them so what they want is to usually feel pain before they die.

im starting to think i should become a psychiatrist




thank you. someone gets it

I think you should just stop listening to that emo music ;) .

"I cut myself to feel the pain", how lame. If you want to feel pain, get someone to hit you over the head with a 2x4, maybe it will knock some sense in to you. Besides, if you actually want to feel PAIN, you wouldn't put some pussy cut across your wrist (any which way). Real painful, right.

booohooo, the poor depressed teenager that has the same problems, or probably has it BETTER than 99% of the rest of the people in this world. Cry me a ****ing river!

BTW, you didn't tell anyone because you felt stupid.

[Scapegoat]

itstock you're so far off from center its not even funny...

i never said it was difficult to kill yourself.

And I do agree that a lot of kids cut for some kind of attention. However, this kind of cut in a suicide attempt is a serious attempt, not a "i want attention from mommy and daddy" cut.

Most of the time you see this attempt unsuccessful is because these people have enough time to go, "oh ****... this is not what I wanted..." or something like that runs through their head and they have enough time to get to the hospital before they die.

take your head out of your ass and realize that not everyone is as mentally stable as you so obviously are and not everyone has the same thought process...

you are incredibly wrong in your assumptions regarding suicide and cutting and the mental abilities of those suffering from severe depression, situational depression, etc...

[ITSTOCK]

No, attempting suicide is a cry for help. Committing suicide is the most selfish act one can do.

It's that simple. If you want to kill yourself, you kill yourself. It you want help, you get help.

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

itstock you're so far off from center its not even funny...

Yea, I always hated the common sense approach as well.

i never said it was difficult to kill yourself.

Just so that you understand this.

And I do agree that a lot of kids cut for some kind of attention. However, this kind of cut in a suicide attempt is a serious attempt, not a "i want attention from mommy and daddy" cut.

What ATTEMPT are you talking about? Didn't you just say it's not difficult to kill yourself? Enlighten me, if it's not difficult to kill yourself, how can such a simple act not be completed???? If they really wanted to kill themselves, they would do so.

Most of the time you see this attempt unsuccessful is because these people have enough time to go, "oh ****... this is not what I wanted..." or something like that runs through their head and they have enough time to get to the hospital before they die.

Interesting theory, especially after you already stated...

i never said it was difficult to kill yourself.

take your head out of your ass and realize that not everyone is as mentally stable as you so obviously are and not everyone has the same thought process...

That's unfortunate.

you are incredibly wrong in your assumptions regarding suicide and cutting and the mental abilities of those suffering from severe depression, situational depression, etc...

Attempting suicide is a cry for help, AKA ATTENTION WHORING. It's weird that just about every single medical professional agrees that a suicide attempt is a cry for help, and yet you sit here and tell me that I need to pull my head out of my ass. Wake up, and smell the roses. Everyone goes through some form of depression, everyone has different and crazy thoughts, but only true attention whores attempt to commit suicide.

Lastly, for the record, I am not grouping TRUE psychiatric disorders in the above group. Being a teenager doesn't get you in to that category though, sorry!

[supraghost]

who says there is one reason to commit suicide? everyone commiting suicide is attention whoring? not true at all. a lot of suicide is a persons way of getting out of the mess they are in. you know, the "perminant solution to a temporary problem". sure a lot of people dont get attention and then use suicide to get it, but def not all of them. ive had my emo days it wasnt "man i wish people woudl pay attention to me, i will shoot myself and then they will notice". not at all. the only thing that ever even made me come close to thinking about it was "wow what have i done. i screwed my life up. this is not enjoyable. i would rather be non existant than live in this hell."

jsut to clear things up though, i never came close to doing it lol. just a thought process...

[Scapegoat]

its not attention whoring... and yes, it is a cry for help... and no, "true attention whores" do not attempt to commit suicide. people that need to see a professional attempt suicide.

What selfish is people like you so wrapped up in themselves that they truly believe that the person killing themselves owes something to YOU not to kill themselves. Most people that finally do end their life are mentally unstable and are thinking about YOU. They are thinking about everything in their life that is ****ed up, or perceived to be ****ed up.

You can't condemn someone that may not actually have proper control over their thoughts or actions. Some people are so far gone that even severe medication cannot help. And a lot of the time, people that are driven to suicide are that far gone... and are not able to make the changes they need to make in order to get better, or get out of their funk.

Those that attempt suicide usually have one of those moments of clarity as they're laying their dying and move on to get help, either on their own or forcibly.

I'm sorry your friend killed himself, and I'm sorry you're bitter about it... I would be too, and I'd probably feel exactly the same way as you about this subject if someone I knew closely killed themselves. But his actions and your feelings are not something that need be inflicted onto everyone w/ depression and every that contemplates and everyone that attempts and everyone that succeeds in suicide.

You go talk to a professional about suicide and you'll understand how you're incorrect. I've heard enough about the subject and about mental illness in general in the past 2 years to have some "correct" (ie: text book) descriptions and examples these things... and I'm not talking about psych 101... i'm not talking about a class or two to meet graduation requirements at a community college...

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

its not attention whoring... and yes, it is a cry for help... and no, "true attention whores" do not attempt to commit suicide. people that need to see a professional attempt suicide.

Wait, so it IS a cry for help, but they aren't trying to get attention? How exactly does that work????

What selfish is people like you so wrapped up in themselves that they truly believe that the person killing themselves owes something to YOU not to kill themselves. Most people that finally do end their life are mentally unstable and are thinking about YOU. They are thinking about everything in their life that is ****ed up, or perceived to be ****ed up.

OWE something to ME? It's not about me, it's about everyone and everything else that is effected by the morons cowardly act. Like I said, everyone gets depressed, stop crying about it.

You can't condemn someone that may not actually have proper control over their thoughts or actions. Some people are so far gone that even severe medication cannot help. And a lot of the time, people that are driven to suicide are that far gone... and are not able to make the changes they need to make in order to get better, or get out of their funk.

yea, like the 14 year old kid in this thread that had life so bad. Give me a break.

Those that attempt suicide usually have one of those moments of clarity as they're laying their dying and move on to get help, either on their own or forcibly.

They didn't really want to kill themselves if they have time to think about it WHILE dying. That's just a retarded argument. There is no trying. You either kill yourself, or you don't.

I'm sorry your friend killed himself, and I'm sorry you're bitter about it... I would be too, and I'd probably feel exactly the same way as you about this subject if someone I knew closely killed themselves. But his actions and your feelings are not something that need be inflicted onto everyone w/ depression and every that contemplates and everyone that attempts and everyone that succeeds in suicide.

I'm not bitter, I just think it's retarded. He had a little brother that idolized him, probably the toughest part to the entire thing. It was a selfish act, again, that simple.

So my actions and feelings don't need to be inflicted, but I have to listen to people cry about how bad their lives are, or about how they tried to off themselves??? That's a double standard if I've ever heard one! I'm sitting here stating, "WAKE THE **** UP YOU MORON! WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU KILL YOURSELF!??!?!", while you are sadly saying, "Well, you can kill yourself. I understand how deep your pain goes." DAMN!

You go talk to a professional about suicide and you'll understand how you're incorrect. I've heard enough about the subject and about mental illness in general in the past 2 years to have some "correct" (ie: text book) descriptions and examples these things... and I'm not talking about psych 101... i'm not talking about a class or two to meet graduation requirements at a community college...

Open up your text book and read about suicide attempts. Wait a second, you already stated this....

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

its not attention whoring... and yes, it is a cry for help... and no, "true attention whores" do not attempt to commit suicide. people that need to see a professional attempt suicide.

So you either get it or you're confused. I sure as hell can't understand.

[Scapegoat]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

Lastly, for the record, I am not grouping TRUE psychiatric disorders in the above group. Being a teenager doesn't get you in to that category though, sorry!

I'm glad this is on the record...

because this is exactly how I know you don't know a damn thing about what you're talking about.

I'm done with this now, you don't have a clue about this topic and you obviously won't take one...