Yup, It's True, Mark McGwire Used Steroids!

[ScoobyNubieToo!]

So Mark McGwire finally came out and told us what we all suspected/knew all along: He Used Steroids. I must admit when I sat this headline in the sports pages this morning, it made me sad inside. I always enjoyed the rise of Mark McGwire's career as well as the famed home run chase of 98 between him and fellow roid user Sammy Sosa. Yeah, we all knew it, but there was something painful for the baseball fan inside me at reading that he has actually admitted it.

[CHAOS]

lol @ anyone being surprised by this.

[jpalamar]

Roids do alot... but there still takes soo much skil to hit the ball solid too. I'm glad he finally admittted it. He is still a tool... but not as much now.

[ricky2i5]

Originally Posted by CHAOS

lol @ anyone being surprised by this.

i second that. never a doubt in my mind that he used steroids

[Renegade_]

This was news circa 98.

[mcperson2k]

I think its pretty obvious since when he was accused, he dropped off the face of the earth. Now when will we find out Ken Griffy Jr used them too? Or have we?

[3rdGenMr2Girl]

well duh! and the funny part is, i watched his interview last night and he basically said he used them to stay healthy and that they didn't affect his hitting ability at all. yeah. ok.

[c0nfl1kt]

Roids don't give you an excellent swing, great hand-eye coordination and eliminate hours and hours and YEARS of batting practice to hit a round ball with a bat, that has a round profile, that good. Still, he used illegal drugs.

[c0nfl1kt]

Originally Posted by mcperson2k

I think its pretty obvious since when he was accused, he dropped off the face of the earth. Now when will we find out Ken Griffy Jr used them too? Or have we?

Nope. Unless he has a memoir/book coming out soon. In which case he could go that route.

[sinner]

That's actually very common in pro athletes. Baseball players play allot of games, most back to back. It takes a toll on their bodies. Steroids can be usedto heal broken down muscles faster, they're not just for gaining weight. Allot of fighters/wrestlers use them as well. But this really shouldn't be a surprise. The vast majority of pro athletes have used steroids at one point and time whether it be in highschool, college, or just the weight room off season. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just naive.

[Scapegoat]

Originally Posted by c0nfl1kt

Roids don't give you an excellent swing, great hand-eye coordination and eliminate hours and hours and YEARS of batting practice to hit a round ball with a bat, that has a round profile, that good. Still, he used illegal drugs.

correct... steroids don't increase his ability to hit a ball.

but it does increase the distance at which the ball travels when he hits it.

i'm sure he could knock them out of the park on occasion w/o roid use... but with the steroids the amount he could do so jumped up

[SpEcRv9]

yeah when he started using roids regularly in the 90s his home run rate only cut in half from 1/28ab's to 1/14 ab's...they didn't do all that much for him

[jpalamar]

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

correct... steroids don't increase his ability to hit a ball.

but it does increase the distance at which the ball travels when he hits it.

i'm sure he could knock them out of the park on occasion w/o roid use... but with the steroids the amount he could do so jumped up

This is what I belive. Roids may have giving him a few extra ones that may of just been fly balls, but he was jacking them out by alot more then that.... so there is no doubt in my mind that he is one of the best batters for that... but you can't ever prove it cause of the roids.

[Scapegoat]

don't roll your eyes. I don't pay any attention to baseball or this roid stuff. i do know that in general, the illegal use of steroids is meant to increase one's strength. which translates to being able to hit the ball harder and thusly over a greater distance.

if he was running through the season naturally, he probably couldn't have done what he did. due to soreness from playing and being exhausted.

honestly... they play to many damn games. they need to let the players rest so they can perform their best each game w/o supplementing. and if they're not going to change the amount of games, then they need to give the option to all players and have it legally watched over by doctors.

they all do it... the sport would probably suck more than it does now if they didn't. may as well regulate it

[c0nfl1kt]

McGwire(if that's how it's spelled) is a pull hitter. I am also a pull hitter and never took steroids and hit more home runs than anyone in any league I ever played it. You can work at being a pull hitter to put that strength behind the bat instead of pulling as much. Sure, the steroids gave him more strength, I am not denying that. The dude just had a natural ability to hit the ball far because of his build and his swing.

Tiger Woods, if I am not mistaken, uses some kind of LEGAL procedure that, again, if I am not mistaken, uses some kind of steroids to heal his body and muscles during long tours.

[sinner]

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

don't roll your eyes. I don't pay any attention to baseball or this roid stuff. i do know that in general, the illegal use of steroids is meant to increase one's strength. which translates to being able to hit the ball harder and thusly over a greater distance.

if he was running through the season naturally, he probably couldn't have done what he did. due to soreness from playing and being exhausted.

honestly... they play to many damn games. they need to let the players rest so they can perform their best each game w/o supplementing. and if they're not going to change the amount of games, then they need to give the option to all players and have it legally watched over by doctors.

they all do it... the sport would probably suck more than it does now if they didn't. may as well regulate it

You hit the nail on the head bro. I feel like most people forget that pro athletes are...well...entertainers lol. What they do really isn't all that important in the grand scheme of things. They're not putting men in space or curing cancer. Let them juice if they want to. I'd rather see a monster rocking balls out of the stadium then a ground ball to 2nd. People get so upset about the thought of their favorite player using "illegal drugs". Come on, they play a game for a living and make entirely too much money. Anyone who makes the argument that they're roll models for kids have been living under a rock. It's the parents job to teach their kids who to look up to and it shouldn't be a pro athlete.

[mcperson2k]

How can you say that steroid use doesn't affect your ability to hit the ball. There are so many examples of steroid users in baseball that its not even funny. The most obvious to me is the whole McGwire, Sosa, Griffy time period. Those 3 were neck and neck in the home run game, which is at the same time the whole steroids in baseball ordeal exploded. Its obvious that Sosa was a steroid user, we know that, but what happened to McGwire and Griffy? After the big controversy, they both went back to being mediocre players. Ken Griffy Jr was a household name, and very shortly after, he became a no name once again. They weren't hitting homerun's left and right because they are pull hitters, they were hitting home runs because they were on the juice! Than the media caught on, and they got scared, and went back to hitting pop fly's.

[c0nfl1kt]

Originally Posted by mcperson2k

How can you say that steroid use doesn't affect your ability to hit the ball. There are so many examples of steroid users in baseball that its not even funny. The most obvious to me is the whole McGwire, Sosa, Griffy time period. Those 3 were neck and neck in the home run game, which is at the same time the whole steroids in baseball ordeal exploded. Its obvious that Sosa was a steroid user, we know that, but what happened to McGwire and Griffy? After the big controversy, they both went back to being mediocre players. Ken Griffy Jr was a household name, and very shortly after, he became a no name once again. They weren't hitting homerun's left and right because they are pull hitters, they were hitting home runs because they were on the juice! Than the media caught on, and they got scared, and went back to hitting pop fly's.

You obviously know nothing about baseball and most likely never played it for years at a time to tell the different between swings and hitting styles. I have and I can tell you that the tiniest guy on a team can hit the ball as well and further than the biggest guy on a team as long as they know how to and where on the bat to hit it. You just can't get on "the juice" and start hitting home runs right away. It takes years and years of practice and studying pitchers and also patience to wait for the certain pitch.

[evomike]

If babe Ruth or any of the greats played in the steroid era most would use i'd bet, soo many players in his era used roids and like he said it doesn't give you a good swing or hand eye coordination who cares it saved the game they need
to get over it.

[igo4bmx]

Originally Posted by mcperson2k

How can you say that steroid use doesn't affect your ability to hit the ball. There are so many examples of steroid users in baseball that its not even funny. The most obvious to me is the whole McGwire, Sosa, Griffy time period. Those 3 were neck and neck in the home run game, which is at the same time the whole steroids in baseball ordeal exploded. Its obvious that Sosa was a steroid user, we know that, but what happened to McGwire and Griffy? After the big controversy, they both went back to being mediocre players. Ken Griffy Jr was a household name, and very shortly after, he became a no name once again. They weren't hitting homerun's left and right because they are pull hitters, they were hitting home runs because they were on the juice! Than the media caught on, and they got scared, and went back to hitting pop fly's.

you also gotta realize they weren't the only 3 on juice. so what about the 100 other players on it who couldn't slam homeruns? like mentioned above, steroids helps with explosiveness and recovery, but doesn't help you with your hand and eye coordination!