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delphinE30 · 10-12-2009, 08:39 PM

just got my car delivered to me today for the last big mod of the year

its not fully done, i still have more to finish but thats for next year. heres some crappy pics for now.

OMGz Turbo · 10-12-2009, 08:41 PM

Looking good lol

kunt_masha · 10-13-2009, 03:42 PM

i like your progress, whered you get the cage from?

yellow2000S/R · 10-13-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kunt_masha

i like your progress, whered you get the cage from?

x2, how much did it cost you? Any door bars?

delphinE30 · 10-13-2009, 08:29 PM

it was custom built. so it costed me a bit. 800 actually. the guy builds chassis for some race team. so i know its built strong. and no i just wanted the rear bars nothin crazy. i drove it today and it feels amazing!!

tomustang · 10-13-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by delphinE30

it was custom built. so it costed me a bit. 800 actually. the guy builds chassis for some race team. so i know its built strong. and no i just wanted the rear bars nothin crazy. i drove it today and it feels amazing!!

Now get a camera mount

Oh and it's a Bar not a cage

delphinE30 · 10-13-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tomustang

Now get a camera mount

Oh and it's a Bar not a cage

yes!! haha
yea i know its not really a cage. half cage at most lol

856jersey · 10-13-2009, 10:44 PM

looks awesome

Jjaeger240 · 10-13-2009, 11:15 PM

You paid 800 for that?

What tubing is that? Why are the base plates for the rear cross on the rear seat panel? Bends in the rear down bars also aren't legal for anything, even drag racing.

Not trying to hate, but man, this thing is not legal for anything for so many reasons. I have no idea why someone who works for "some race team" would design anything like this.

delphinE30 · 10-13-2009, 11:23 PM

what do you mean by legal?? legal by not being built to specs??
and again.... the reason for the rear bars is because of the sub box. he didnt want it like that but its the best he could get with how the trunk is set up with the sub box, and with the fuel pump being there i need some access room to get to it.
nah its all good dude. i dont mind you putting on your 2 cents. ive had guys rip on this cage already and i only had it for a little over a day.
o and i took it to a shop that builds cages, but they couldnt do it at the time so they sent it to the guy that builds cages for them. thats probly y it was more. it was taken from one shop to another. it wasnt planned that way.

Jjaeger240 · 10-13-2009, 11:32 PM

Legal as in doesn't meet NHRA/SCCA/FD/HPDE/any track that requires a roll cage standards.

I'm not giving you crap as in its the not end-all greatest cage ever, but if your point behind it was to comply with a certain motorsport's rulebook, it doesn't.

delphinE30 · 10-13-2009, 11:34 PM

nah dude for one i dont race it. and its def not doing anything near 10s in the quarter haha. but once i clean it up itll look sick at shows. the rest of the rear end is getting cleaned up as well.

yellow2000S/R · 10-14-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jjaeger240

You paid 800 for that?

What tubing is that? Why are the base plates for the rear cross on the rear seat panel? Bends in the rear down bars also aren't legal for anything, even drag racing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jjaeger240

Legal as in doesn't meet NHRA/SCCA/FD/HPDE/any track that requires a roll cage standards.

I'm not giving you crap as in its the not end-all greatest cage ever, but if your point behind it was to comply with a certain motorsport's rulebook, it doesn't.

Rear bars are allowed to have a 30* bend in them now... as long as the bends are under 30* he will be fine (in addition he has the X brace to the seat/floor as well). As long as the down bars mount to the rear floor with only that 1 bend of less then 30* with a 6"x6" .125" plate minimum, he's good.

OBEEWON · 10-14-2009, 07:54 AM

What size tubing are those X bars?

Jjaeger240 · 10-14-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by yellow2000S/R

Rear bars are allowed to have a 30* bend in them now... as long as the bends are under 30* he will be fine (in addition he has the X brace to the seat/floor as well). As long as the down bars mount to the rear floor with only that 1 bend of less then 30* with a 6"x6" .125" plate minimum, he's good.

Uhhh....what rule book is that? No one lets that fly, even lkt who will let me get away with pool noodles as cage padding and covering spots of PVC tubing in the door bars because there wasn't enough bracing to the NASCAR bars.

Regardless, the X is supportive of the main hoop, not the down bars which leave them rulebook-wise "useless". On top of that, based on the pictures it looks like the X is not even an X--it's just two diagonal downbars that don't conjoin. No diagonal in the main hoop would also only pass in a very few organizations due to side impact hazard.

And as OBEEWON and myself have brought up, what tubing is that? Eyeballing through pictures alone it doesn't look passable for anything.

But the original poster has made it clear that the cage is a....show piece....so it's not important what rules it follows anyway, just needs to look boss.

92sileighty · 10-14-2009, 12:50 PM

i dont want to be an ass, but i feel like you could have gotten a pretty decent cage for 800. i dont know much about cages, but i feel like you got screwed

delphinE30 · 10-15-2009, 12:05 AM

i dont konw the size of the bars. or what for sure its made of lol. what you see in the pics is pretty much what i got to see. ill check everything out tomorrow maybe if i got time. between fixing some moldings and possibly ripping my tint off for the po po ugh
sorry just a lot going on at the moment.
o and the x bars do join.

TurboTagTeam · 10-15-2009, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 92sileighty

i dont want to be an ass, but i feel like you could have gotten a pretty decent cage for 800. i dont know much about cages, but i feel like you got screwed

You can get a cheaply made ROLL BAR for 800$ but certainly not a CAGE.

As for the pipe...Most road racing sanctions want 1.75in .120wall DOM now. Most Drag racing sanctions will let u get away with 1.5in .095wall chromeoly and i believe 1.75in .10wall DOM but it varies on what kind of cage it is.

The rear X-brace is very poorly positioned. It should of been made much wider but the top should of mated with the main hoop on the horizonal part of the hoop, not the vertical part.

delphinE30 · 10-16-2009, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboTagTeam

You can get a cheaply made ROLL BAR for 800$ but certainly not a CAGE.

As for the pipe...Most road racing sanctions want 1.75in .120wall DOM now. Most Drag racing sanctions will let u get away with 1.5in .095wall chromeoly and i believe 1.75in .10wall DOM but it varies on what kind of cage it is.

The rear X-brace is very poorly positioned. It should of been made much wider but the top should of mated with the main hoop on the horizonal part of the hoop, not the vertical part.

it does meet with the horizontal part. i thought it should have met right at the angle. well the dude said its certified like everyone of is cages/bars. and if it isnt i hope the racecars he buils are lol.
not that its a huge deal cuz like ive stated before im not racin. and if i do my car isnt fast enough yet hahahaha

TurboTagTeam · 10-16-2009, 01:21 PM

It's not certified untill a inspector looks at it and slaps a certification sticker on it.

10-12-2009, 08:39 PM	#1
delphinE30 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Member #14644 My Ride: 1987 BMW 325is iTrader: (0)	got the cage in :) last big mod of the year just got my car delivered to me today for the last big mod of the year its not fully done, i still have more to finish but thats for next year. heres some crappy pics for now. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by delphinE30; 10-13-2009 at 12:13 AM.

10-12-2009, 08:41 PM	#2
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10-13-2009, 03:42 PM	#3
kunt_masha Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Coatesville & Manayunk, PA Member #671 My Ride: wide low dumb e30, heavy slow 350z iTrader: (0)	i like your progress, whered you get the cage from? __________________ Formerly SlitZ

10-13-2009, 08:29 PM	#5
delphinE30 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Member #14644 My Ride: 1987 BMW 325is iTrader: (0)	it was custom built. so it costed me a bit. 800 actually. the guy builds chassis for some race team. so i know its built strong. and no i just wanted the rear bars nothin crazy. i drove it today and it feels amazing!! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-13-2009, 11:23 PM	#10
delphinE30 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Member #14644 My Ride: 1987 BMW 325is iTrader: (0)	what do you mean by legal?? legal by not being built to specs?? and again.... the reason for the rear bars is because of the sub box. he didnt want it like that but its the best he could get with how the trunk is set up with the sub box, and with the fuel pump being there i need some access room to get to it. nah its all good dude. i dont mind you putting on your 2 cents. ive had guys rip on this cage already and i only had it for a little over a day. o and i took it to a shop that builds cages, but they couldnt do it at the time so they sent it to the guy that builds cages for them. thats probly y it was more. it was taken from one shop to another. it wasnt planned that way. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by delphinE30; 10-13-2009 at 11:25 PM.

10-13-2009, 10:44 PM	#8
856jersey Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Philadelphia Member #11382 My Ride: 81 VW Rabbit Pickup & 91 MX-5 Special Edition iTrader: (5)	looks awesome

10-13-2009, 11:15 PM	#9
Jjaeger240 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Baltimore,MD and York,PA Member #3470 My Ride: Nissan S13 iTrader: (0)	You paid 800 for that? What tubing is that? Why are the base plates for the rear cross on the rear seat panel? Bends in the rear down bars also aren't legal for anything, even drag racing. Not trying to hate, but man, this thing is not legal for anything for so many reasons. I have no idea why someone who works for "some race team" would design anything like this.

10-13-2009, 11:32 PM	#11
Jjaeger240 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Baltimore,MD and York,PA Member #3470 My Ride: Nissan S13 iTrader: (0)	Legal as in doesn't meet NHRA/SCCA/FD/HPDE/any track that requires a roll cage standards. I'm not giving you crap as in its the not end-all greatest cage ever, but if your point behind it was to comply with a certain motorsport's rulebook, it doesn't.

10-13-2009, 11:34 PM	#12
delphinE30 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Member #14644 My Ride: 1987 BMW 325is iTrader: (0)	nah dude for one i dont race it. and its def not doing anything near 10s in the quarter haha. but once i clean it up itll look sick at shows. the rest of the rear end is getting cleaned up as well. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-14-2009, 07:54 AM	#14
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	What size tubing are those X bars? __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-14-2009, 12:50 PM	#16
92sileighty Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Springfield Member #6020 My Ride: 05 S2000 iTrader: (1)	i dont want to be an ass, but i feel like you could have gotten a pretty decent cage for 800. i dont know much about cages, but i feel like you got screwed

10-15-2009, 12:05 AM	#17
delphinE30 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Member #14644 My Ride: 1987 BMW 325is iTrader: (0)	i dont konw the size of the bars. or what for sure its made of lol. what you see in the pics is pretty much what i got to see. ill check everything out tomorrow maybe if i got time. between fixing some moldings and possibly ripping my tint off for the po po ugh sorry just a lot going on at the moment. o and the x bars do join. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by delphinE30; 10-15-2009 at 12:07 AM.

10-16-2009, 01:21 PM	#20
TurboTagTeam Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cell Block F Member #275 My Ride: constantly changes iTrader: (2)	It's not certified untill a inspector looks at it and slaps a certification sticker on it.

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