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CleanNeon98 · 08-17-2009, 06:24 PM

Some may have read that recently my camera gear was stolen from my car. Body, lenses, memory cards, bag, everything. I will be getting a check from insurance and will be looking at a new camera but it gets tricky. Since I have nothing Canon left, there is nothing keeping me to the brand and I am considering making the move to Nikon.

I am looking to spend ~1000 for a body and then the appropriate lenses which I desire, being a lower range say 18-55, 50mm prime, and a higher zoom lens.

Contenders from Canon
40D
50D
T1i (dont like the layout much but it has video)
Used 5D mk1 maybe

Contenders from Nikon
d90
d300 used

My friend Steve (howielong) has a D300 that I toyed with a few times and I like it, good ergonomics, weight, layout, and the results seem good as well. I've played with the 40D and 50D before as well and like them, and the t1i seems similar to the XTi I once had. The D90 is on the list because its inexpensive and has video.

I've been shooting for about a year but haven't had to look at bodies, only lenses, so I am lost ATM. I will also be buying an off-shoe flash with everything else.

Advice?

Chris_PA · 08-17-2009, 06:31 PM

How much are you able to spend including the 3 lenses?

CleanNeon98 · 08-17-2009, 06:35 PM

I'd like to be in the 2500-3000 for a body, lenses, and a flash. This should get me decent equiptment that I can use for a long time without upgrading. I wouldn't even be back in the market but I miss going to events, family parties, and having a camera to work with. I went to NYC this weekend and had to work with my friends P&S, I thought I was going to kill myself.

jspek · 08-17-2009, 07:08 PM

well if you are gonna buy a flash, the d90/300 support cls, which is nice if you want to get the flash off camera. i havent had any problems with my 90 since i bought it.

twizhimself · 08-17-2009, 07:23 PM

D90 D90 D90!!!!

i just got one a few weeks ago and i love it! so much more than my old 20D. CLS is awesome because you dont (necessarily) need to hook up pocket wizards for off camera flash. the video is great to have...The kit lens is Very decent IMO. (18-105 VR)

with this one, i picked up a nikon SB600, and i think im going to buy a SB800 very soon

CleanNeon98 · 08-17-2009, 07:47 PM

Here are 2 potential packages I'm looking at

Canon:
Canon 50D
Canon 70-200 f/4 non-IS
Canon 18-55 kit
Canon 50mm 1.4
Canon 580ex2

Nikon: courtesy of Chaz
Nikon D90
Nikon kit lens
Sigma/tamron 70-200 2.8
Nikon 50mm 1.8
sb600

With either I'd have enough for a bag and memory and still fit to my 3k budget. The only thing I like about the 90d is the video feature though I don't know how good it really is, I know it's nothing like the pro video cameras so I don't know if it's worth it.

DPancoast · 08-17-2009, 07:47 PM

I hear a ton of good about the D90 from people that I know into photography.

Chris_PA · 08-17-2009, 09:37 PM

Go with this:

5D: $1500 (maybe cheaper)
430EX II: $270
70-200/4: $650
50/1.4: $400
28/1.8: $450

Little over $3000, but a real nice kit

Or if I were you I'd get a 5D and 1 or 2 real nice L primes and just save the rest until I can afford good glass

CleanNeon98 · 08-17-2009, 11:43 PM

Thanks Chris. I mean I can get a 5Dmk2 and a cheap kit lens and a 50 1.8 but I dunno if that's what I want.

djb5118 · 08-18-2009, 08:37 AM

it kinda depends on what you are shooting. if you don't need the weathersealing and magnesium body of the d300 then go for the d90 for sure, but if you plan on having the camera take a bit of abuse then go for the d300.

I haven't used any of the 3rd party 70-200 f2.8's but i would imagine they are pretty solid. Another option if you want to save a bit of cash would be to get a 70-300VR. I shoot it on my d700 and its great for what it is!

CleanNeon98 · 08-18-2009, 11:46 AM

The 40D and 50D are looking real good. The D90 seems to be the best value for the money, even with the video aside, but from the video's I've seen it looks kinda small.

YO CAMRY · 08-18-2009, 11:05 PM

If you go Canon, get the 40D. 50D has more MP, but the 40D has better noise levels.

occman · 08-18-2009, 11:10 PM

i just bought the t1i its pretty nice so far

d40 -> xti -> t1i

CleanNeon98 · 08-19-2009, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YO CAMRY

If you go Canon, get the 40D. 50D has more MP, but the 40D has better noise levels.

I've been reading and hearing this. What are the other differences, and what do you shoot with?

TimR · 08-19-2009, 01:10 PM

i personally have the d90 with the kit lense and a sb600. Wish i had more glass but funds are a little low anyway its a great camera decently easy to learn, alot of features. Canon lenses normally do give you more bang for your buck..

CleanNeon98 · 08-19-2009, 02:14 PM

I can't use the D90 and similar cameras because of their size, just way too small for my hands. I had an XTi, then got a bigger one, tried shooting with an XTi, couldn't do it.

cszakolczai · 08-19-2009, 02:59 PM

I like ChrisPA's suggestion the most and I'm a Nikon guy. But honestly, what he listed is what I am looking to play around with as well. I want to get a 5D and a couple of L lenses and thats it. Purely as a backup camera, but just so much fun.

I say 5D MK1
and go from there.

CleanNeon98 · 08-19-2009, 05:28 PM

Another idea is a D300 with a 50 1.4, keep the budget lower and get a brand new feature packed camera, i love it's layout, etc. CLS doesn't sound bad either

djb5118 · 08-19-2009, 07:25 PM

go FX if you can swing it financially! Skip the d300 altogether

D.K. · 08-19-2009, 07:36 PM

d300s check it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

08-17-2009, 06:24 PM	#1
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Semi-experienced shooter needs advice on new gear Some may have read that recently my camera gear was stolen from my car. Body, lenses, memory cards, bag, everything. I will be getting a check from insurance and will be looking at a new camera but it gets tricky. Since I have nothing Canon left, there is nothing keeping me to the brand and I am considering making the move to Nikon. I am looking to spend ~1000 for a body and then the appropriate lenses which I desire, being a lower range say 18-55, 50mm prime, and a higher zoom lens. Contenders from Canon 40D 50D T1i (dont like the layout much but it has video) Used 5D mk1 maybe Contenders from Nikon d90 d300 used My friend Steve (howielong) has a D300 that I toyed with a few times and I like it, good ergonomics, weight, layout, and the results seem good as well. I've played with the 40D and 50D before as well and like them, and the t1i seems similar to the XTi I once had. The D90 is on the list because its inexpensive and has video. I've been shooting for about a year but haven't had to look at bodies, only lenses, so I am lost ATM. I will also be buying an off-shoe flash with everything else. Advice? __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

08-17-2009, 06:31 PM	#2
Chris_PA Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Chester Member #1541 My Ride: 02 Exploder iTrader: (0)	How much are you able to spend including the 3 lenses? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

08-17-2009, 06:35 PM	#3
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	I'd like to be in the 2500-3000 for a body, lenses, and a flash. This should get me decent equiptment that I can use for a long time without upgrading. I wouldn't even be back in the market but I miss going to events, family parties, and having a camera to work with. I went to NYC this weekend and had to work with my friends P&S, I thought I was going to kill myself. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

08-17-2009, 07:23 PM	#5
twizhimself Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Easton, PA Member #950 My Ride: 2004 Subaru WRX iTrader: (0)	D90 D90 D90!!!! i just got one a few weeks ago and i love it! so much more than my old 20D. CLS is awesome because you dont (necessarily) need to hook up pocket wizards for off camera flash. the video is great to have...The kit lens is Very decent IMO. (18-105 VR) with this one, i picked up a nikon SB600, and i think im going to buy a SB800 very soon __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by twizhimself; 08-17-2009 at 07:31 PM.

08-17-2009, 07:47 PM	#6
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Here are 2 potential packages I'm looking at Canon: Canon 50D Canon 70-200 f/4 non-IS Canon 18-55 kit Canon 50mm 1.4 Canon 580ex2 Nikon: courtesy of Chaz Nikon D90 Nikon kit lens Sigma/tamron 70-200 2.8 Nikon 50mm 1.8 sb600 With either I'd have enough for a bag and memory and still fit to my 3k budget. The only thing I like about the 90d is the video feature though I don't know how good it really is, I know it's nothing like the pro video cameras so I don't know if it's worth it. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

08-17-2009, 09:37 PM	#8
Chris_PA Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Chester Member #1541 My Ride: 02 Exploder iTrader: (0)	Go with this: 5D: $1500 (maybe cheaper) 430EX II: $270 70-200/4: $650 50/1.4: $400 28/1.8: $450 Little over $3000, but a real nice kit Or if I were you I'd get a 5D and 1 or 2 real nice L primes and just save the rest until I can afford good glass __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

08-17-2009, 11:43 PM	#9
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Thanks Chris. I mean I can get a 5Dmk2 and a cheap kit lens and a 50 1.8 but I dunno if that's what I want. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

08-18-2009, 08:37 AM	#10
djb5118 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Member #5884 My Ride: SC300 iTrader: (0)	it kinda depends on what you are shooting. if you don't need the weathersealing and magnesium body of the d300 then go for the d90 for sure, but if you plan on having the camera take a bit of abuse then go for the d300. I haven't used any of the 3rd party 70-200 f2.8's but i would imagine they are pretty solid. Another option if you want to save a bit of cash would be to get a 70-300VR. I shoot it on my d700 and its great for what it is! __________________ Live with Passion.

08-18-2009, 11:46 AM	#11
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	The 40D and 50D are looking real good. The D90 seems to be the best value for the money, even with the video aside, but from the video's I've seen it looks kinda small. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

08-18-2009, 11:05 PM	#12
YO CAMRY Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bensalem, PA Member #10665 My Ride: 87 Camry iTrader: (0)	If you go Canon, get the 40D. 50D has more MP, but the 40D has better noise levels. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

08-18-2009, 11:10 PM	#13
occman Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: lansdale Member #14145 My Ride: G35 // R.I.P AE86 iTrader: (0)	i just bought the t1i its pretty nice so far d40 -> xti -> t1i

08-19-2009, 01:10 PM	#15
TimR Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Stamford, CT Member #14402 iTrader: (0)	i personally have the d90 with the kit lense and a sb600. Wish i had more glass but funds are a little low anyway its a great camera decently easy to learn, alot of features. Canon lenses normally do give you more bang for your buck..

08-19-2009, 02:14 PM	#16
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	I can't use the D90 and similar cameras because of their size, just way too small for my hands. I had an XTi, then got a bigger one, tried shooting with an XTi, couldn't do it. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

08-19-2009, 02:59 PM	#17
cszakolczai Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Nov 2006 Member #2954 My Ride: Sentra SER Spec V iTrader: (0)	I like ChrisPA's suggestion the most and I'm a Nikon guy. But honestly, what he listed is what I am looking to play around with as well. I want to get a 5D and a couple of L lenses and thats it. Purely as a backup camera, but just so much fun. I say 5D MK1 and go from there.

08-19-2009, 05:28 PM	#18
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Another idea is a D300 with a 50 1.4, keep the budget lower and get a brand new feature packed camera, i love it's layout, etc. CLS doesn't sound bad either __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

08-19-2009, 07:25 PM	#19
djb5118 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Member #5884 My Ride: SC300 iTrader: (0)	go FX if you can swing it financially! Skip the d300 altogether __________________ Live with Passion.

08-19-2009, 07:36 PM	#20
D.K. Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: feasterville Member #3066 My Ride: 02 k20a3. 89 ka24e iTrader: (0)	d300s check it out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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