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2000MRDC2 · 04-29-2009, 10:56 PM

I just got a job out here, and they have a 97ish F250 with the 7.3L Powerstroke. They are sending it to auction and I was thinking about picking it up for real cheap, as a DD for now until I save up to get a car. The thing smokes real bad on start up, and I read That it may be bad glow plugs. How expensive and how Hard are glow plugs to replace, Also any ideas on what else it could be if you dont think its the glow plugs?

2000MRDC2 · 04-30-2009, 09:30 PM

Bump Somone help me out I want this truck.

R_Rambo · 04-30-2009, 09:37 PM

glows plugs are a pretty common thing on diesel's especially older ones like a 97, they shouldnt be hard to get, and are not hard to replace. im not sure on price though. And what kinda smoke is coming out if it black and not a ton of it that pretty normal, just unburnt diesel.

DsmRob · 04-30-2009, 09:39 PM

Like what R Rambo said what color is the smoke?

jjm4life · 04-30-2009, 09:53 PM

smoke and diesel goes hand and hand.. glow plugs arent a big deal either. sounds like a cool truck

teh DIRT · 04-30-2009, 09:56 PM

glow plugs usually dont cause smoke however. Each application is different but in most cases glow plugs are used for cold start/start coniditions.

edit: didnt read that the problem is during startup, could be glows.

OutToWinPAHC · 04-30-2009, 10:06 PM

Diesels like to smoke at start up. Exspecially if there wa ever any tuning done. I used to drive a 99 Excursion with a 7.3. Tuned with a hypertech handheld it hated cold starts and smoked like a bear but ran great.

How many miles on her? The 7.3s are good motors. Probably just needs a good going over and cleaning.

R_Rambo · 04-30-2009, 10:10 PM

new ones are better, but with older diesel's they never wanna start on a cold morning no matter what lol

jjm4life · 04-30-2009, 10:10 PM

which ford diesel is it that had all the recalls? i know its not this one as it was fairly recent.

Zillon · 04-30-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jjm4life

which ford diesel is it that had all the recalls? i know its not this one as it was fairly recent.

The 6.0. It still gets a ton of recalls.

If it's a '97, it should be a pretty solid motor. That's the last year of the old bodystyle trucks, before they brought out the Superduty. My dad had a '97 F-350 with the 7.3 in it and a Banks powerpack, and it was incredibly reliable.

The only issue he ever really had with the engine was with the cam sensor. In the 7.3, they crap out intermittently. It's a good idea to carry a spare.

Keep an eye on the transmission, too, if it's an auto. Weakest point in the driveline. My dad went through 2 transmissions before getting rid of the '97 for his '06 F-350.

2000MRDC2 · 04-30-2009, 10:18 PM

its a 97 250 with the 7.3 The smoke is white and only on start up, I know diesels smoke black when you get on them a little and it does, but it smokes white bad when you first start it in the morning. After its been warmed up and you restart it, it doesnt smoke unless it sits for awhile. its only got a 171k on it or 117K idk which one it was ill check in the morning.

R_Rambo · 05-01-2009, 09:34 AM

Sounds like a pretty good deal. I have a friend with a 95 f350 dually and its a beast. Take care of them and they last forever.

poolmike · 05-01-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by R_Rambo

PowerJokes suck, but with FORD diesel's they never wanna start on a cold morning no matter what lol

Fixed it for ya.

Let the truck go to auction and buy something with a Cummins, No glow plug bull, no fussin'. Crank/start/drive, no matter what the temps. Smoke is normal on any diesel, Ford/IH PowerStrokes smoke more than normal due to them taking an eternity to fire. Lots of wasted fuel. It is also a 'light duty' diesel, designed for the light duty Ford/IH truck line-up. Cummins is straight up industrial, some of the engines just happen to end up in trucks.

DriftCrash · 05-01-2009, 12:12 PM

If the price is cheap enough I say pick it up.

I grabed a 96 f350 with a 7.3L and a 5 speed for 500 bucks, its got 250k miles. It also smokes a little bit on start up if I let it sit for awhile but after it warms up its fine.

All the diesel trucks at my work are the same way.

**Big_Jim** · 05-01-2009, 03:27 PM

if its cheap enough, i say buy it. sounds like it would be a solid truck.

215ek · 05-01-2009, 04:08 PM

honestly renn i say just buy a cheap honda/whatever you want, cause you KNOW how to work on them. if the truck gives you problems youll have to resort to the forums. which is nice but if you have real problems i know you know your way around a 4 cylinder...

R_Rambo · 05-01-2009, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by poolmike

Fixed it for ya.

haha I wouldnt disagree with that at all. anyone else notice the suggestive (some more than others) titles of the 3 major diesel motors. duramax, cummins, powerstroke

poolmike · 05-01-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by R_Rambo

haha I wouldnt disagree with that at all. anyone else notice the suggestive (some more than others) titles of the 3 major diesel motors. duramax, cummins, powerstroke

Yes, and like the sticker says.... I would rather be Cummin' than Strokin'

215ek · 05-01-2009, 05:03 PM

amen.

DumpdBassetHound · 05-01-2009, 05:23 PM

turtle would be so upset if your big ass got a diesel truck

04-29-2009, 10:56 PM	#1
2000MRDC2 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Philly Member #1004 My Ride: 1999 Integra LS Sedan iTrader: (1)	Diesel Guys I need help. (powerstroke) I just got a job out here, and they have a 97ish F250 with the 7.3L Powerstroke. They are sending it to auction and I was thinking about picking it up for real cheap, as a DD for now until I save up to get a car. The thing smokes real bad on start up, and I read That it may be bad glow plugs. How expensive and how Hard are glow plugs to replace, Also any ideas on what else it could be if you dont think its the glow plugs? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Honda <3

04-30-2009, 09:30 PM	#2
2000MRDC2 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Philly Member #1004 My Ride: 1999 Integra LS Sedan iTrader: (1)	Bump Somone help me out I want this truck. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Honda <3

04-30-2009, 09:53 PM	#5
jjm4life Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: boston Member #4443 My Ride: jew canoe iTrader: (0)	smoke and diesel goes hand and hand.. glow plugs arent a big deal either. sounds like a cool truck __________________ current: triumph, abarth gone:RS4 evo lotus(s) noble and a bunch of jeeps

04-30-2009, 10:10 PM	#9
jjm4life Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: boston Member #4443 My Ride: jew canoe iTrader: (0)	which ford diesel is it that had all the recalls? i know its not this one as it was fairly recent. __________________ current: triumph, abarth gone:RS4 evo lotus(s) noble and a bunch of jeeps

04-30-2009, 10:18 PM	#11
2000MRDC2 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Philly Member #1004 My Ride: 1999 Integra LS Sedan iTrader: (1)	its a 97 250 with the 7.3 The smoke is white and only on start up, I know diesels smoke black when you get on them a little and it does, but it smokes white bad when you first start it in the morning. After its been warmed up and you restart it, it doesnt smoke unless it sits for awhile. its only got a 171k on it or 117K idk which one it was ill check in the morning. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Honda <3

04-30-2009, 09:37 PM	#3
R_Rambo Tri-State Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: PA Member #8452 My Ride: 11' WRX Hatch iTrader: (1)	glows plugs are a pretty common thing on diesel's especially older ones like a 97, they shouldnt be hard to get, and are not hard to replace. im not sure on price though. And what kinda smoke is coming out if it black and not a ton of it that pretty normal, just unburnt diesel.

04-30-2009, 09:39 PM	#4
DsmRob Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pottstown, Pa Member #10847 My Ride: '90 Talon Tsi, '91 Talon Tsi, '92 gvr4, '04 Escape iTrader: (17)	Like what R Rambo said what color is the smoke?

04-30-2009, 10:06 PM	#7
OutToWinPAHC Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tokelau Member #5081 My Ride: R33 GTS25T, RHD E46, Truck, part R32 GTR iTrader: (2)	Diesels like to smoke at start up. Exspecially if there wa ever any tuning done. I used to drive a 99 Excursion with a 7.3. Tuned with a hypertech handheld it hated cold starts and smoked like a bear but ran great. How many miles on her? The 7.3s are good motors. Probably just needs a good going over and cleaning.

05-01-2009, 09:34 AM	#12
R_Rambo Tri-State Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: PA Member #8452 My Ride: 11' WRX Hatch iTrader: (1)	Sounds like a pretty good deal. I have a friend with a 95 f350 dually and its a beast. Take care of them and they last forever.

05-01-2009, 12:12 PM	#14
DriftCrash Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NazoHell, pa Member #6302 My Ride: 89 240sx, 77 280z, 96 F350 iTrader: (0)	If the price is cheap enough I say pick it up. I grabed a 96 f350 with a 7.3L and a 5 speed for 500 bucks, its got 250k miles. It also smokes a little bit on start up if I let it sit for awhile but after it warms up its fine. All the diesel trucks at my work are the same way.

05-01-2009, 03:27 PM	#15
Big_Jim Dealing with stupidity. Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Member #7592 iTrader: (6)	if its cheap enough, i say buy it. sounds like it would be a solid truck.

05-01-2009, 04:08 PM	#16
215ek Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2008 Member #8604 My Ride: is rubbin, therefore its dubbin iTrader: (0)	honestly renn i say just buy a cheap honda/whatever you want, cause you KNOW how to work on them. if the truck gives you problems youll have to resort to the forums. which is nice but if you have real problems i know you know your way around a 4 cylinder... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

05-01-2009, 05:03 PM	#19
215ek Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2008 Member #8604 My Ride: is rubbin, therefore its dubbin iTrader: (0)	amen. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

05-01-2009, 05:23 PM	#20
DumpdBassetHound Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: levittttttttown Member #10453 My Ride: has no roof iTrader: (0)	turtle would be so upset if your big ass got a diesel truck

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