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WCM3 · 09-15-2008, 08:58 AM

Hey guys,

So I bought a bunch of stuff from Chris @ Glimmer Glass last week and figure I would start detailing my cars. I bought the Ultimate Detailing Machine (as my PC) and a bunch of Poorboy World products, among other things. Well, my mom just picked up a 2001 Honda Civic as her daily (gas mileage) and it had faded/terrible paint on it. I took the time over the weekend to properly wash it (2 bucket method, with Poorboys shampoo, etc) and clay bar it (Poorboys clay bar). After I did all of this I taped up the trim and went to work with the UDM. Now this is the first time I've ever used one, and it was on a civic so don't scold me if this was totally wrong. I started with a White Lake Country pad and some SSR1 to see if it would shine it up/remove some swirls. That really didn't do anything, so I just kept going to all different pads/ssr combinations until something looked like it did something. I ended up using a Yellow Lake Country pad and some SSR2.5, followed by a White Lake Country pad and some SSR2 on the whole car. It made the car shine, but under my garage lights there were still a ton of scratches in the paint. I ended up sealing it with Poorboys EX after all this. It looks 10 times better than how it did, the oxidized paint is now very shiny. I'm excited about how it turned out but I have my 95 M3 turbo, and 07 335i that I want to do next. They each have some swirling going on but I'm not sure if I can remove them since the routine I used before didn't remove swirls on the civic. What do you guys think I did wrong? The 335i is practically new paint, with swirls from the previous owner, so I don't want to mess anything up. I did have a couple questions through the whole civic process that might need to be answered:

1. I would get whatever SSR I was using, and put a skittle size amount around two opposing ends of the pad. Then start the UDM at "1" just to spread the SSRs around before I increased the speed. I worked in 2x2 sections around the whole car. When I increased the power to around 5-6 and increase the pressure I put down on the tool, it would seem like it boggs and doesn't spin barely at all. Is it better to do this, or should I have put no pressure on the head of the UDM and let it just spin freely?

2. For a brand new car, with just swirls, how would you do about detailing it with my pads and ssr? I have CCS yellow, black, white, and blue pads and all the different number SSRs (1,2,2.5, and 3). I don't want to do through the paint, but I also don't want to induce more machine scratching.

3. My other option with these cars is to take it to a professional local detailer. He quoted me $250 to do each of them. I know that this is definitely the easy way out, but since I bought all these supplies I think it would make sense to learn to use them so it was worth it.

What do you guys think? I appreciate any comments you may have.

Thanks,
Mike

Spocknasty · 09-15-2008, 03:31 PM

You really don't want to induce more scratching, you want to induce more heat. Heat will level the paint.

Don't put pressure down on the buffer, that is what is causing it to bog. That and you might need to clean your pads.

Be VERY careful on plastic panels like bumpers. You can sheer the paint right off if you heat them up too much.

Don't be afraid to tape up badges and plastic trim.

Eclipse GSX 61 · 09-15-2008, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRXed

You really don't want to induce more scratching, you want to induce more heat. Heat will level the paint.

Don't put pressure down on the buffer, that is what is causing it to bog. That and you might need to clean your pads.

Be VERY careful on plastic panels like bumpers. You can sheer the paint right off if you heat them up too much.

Don't be afraid to tape up badges and plastic trim.

Do you do buffing? I need a buff super bad. I do everything but.

Spocknasty · 09-15-2008, 09:10 PM

I'm retired.

kcnizm0 · 10-13-2008, 05:04 PM

use swirl removal wax and a foam pad on your buffer to romove swirls. I have a dewalt buffer.. turn the speed down when foam padding.

Buster · 10-16-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRXed

I'm retired.

way to steal my line lol, im more retired than you!

The best way to remove scratches is to go a panel at a time at low speed slowly. and then follow up with your arsenal to shine it up afterwards.

nightblurr · 10-30-2008, 09:40 PM

yea turn ya buffer down to about 1300rpm and use a foampad with anti swerl wax

CHAOS · 10-31-2008, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightblurr

yea turn ya buffer down to about 1300rpm and use a foampad with anti swerl wax

lolwut?

Erik · 10-31-2008, 11:25 AM

ditchin dem swerlz ey lolz

post pics of the paint, im curious to see what your progress looks like

blu4door · 10-31-2008, 11:47 AM

Chaos is the man when it comes to detailing. He is the best detailer on this site, hands down. I would listen to everything he says, word for word.

CHAOS · 10-31-2008, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blu4door

Chaos is the man when it comes to detailing. He is the best detailer on this site, hands down. I would listen to everything he says, word for word.

lol wtf? <3

blu4door · 10-31-2008, 04:23 PM

I only speak the truth. Your car is clean.

ToTheIX's · 10-31-2008, 04:41 PM

xcept for those waterspots

09-15-2008, 08:58 AM	#1
WCM3 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Chester, Pa Member #3342 My Ride: E36 & WJ iTrader: (1)	Started Detailing..here with questions Hey guys, So I bought a bunch of stuff from Chris @ Glimmer Glass last week and figure I would start detailing my cars. I bought the Ultimate Detailing Machine (as my PC) and a bunch of Poorboy World products, among other things. Well, my mom just picked up a 2001 Honda Civic as her daily (gas mileage) and it had faded/terrible paint on it. I took the time over the weekend to properly wash it (2 bucket method, with Poorboys shampoo, etc) and clay bar it (Poorboys clay bar). After I did all of this I taped up the trim and went to work with the UDM. Now this is the first time I've ever used one, and it was on a civic so don't scold me if this was totally wrong. I started with a White Lake Country pad and some SSR1 to see if it would shine it up/remove some swirls. That really didn't do anything, so I just kept going to all different pads/ssr combinations until something looked like it did something. I ended up using a Yellow Lake Country pad and some SSR2.5, followed by a White Lake Country pad and some SSR2 on the whole car. It made the car shine, but under my garage lights there were still a ton of scratches in the paint. I ended up sealing it with Poorboys EX after all this. It looks 10 times better than how it did, the oxidized paint is now very shiny. I'm excited about how it turned out but I have my 95 M3 turbo, and 07 335i that I want to do next. They each have some swirling going on but I'm not sure if I can remove them since the routine I used before didn't remove swirls on the civic. What do you guys think I did wrong? The 335i is practically new paint, with swirls from the previous owner, so I don't want to mess anything up. I did have a couple questions through the whole civic process that might need to be answered: 1. I would get whatever SSR I was using, and put a skittle size amount around two opposing ends of the pad. Then start the UDM at "1" just to spread the SSRs around before I increased the speed. I worked in 2x2 sections around the whole car. When I increased the power to around 5-6 and increase the pressure I put down on the tool, it would seem like it boggs and doesn't spin barely at all. Is it better to do this, or should I have put no pressure on the head of the UDM and let it just spin freely? 2. For a brand new car, with just swirls, how would you do about detailing it with my pads and ssr? I have CCS yellow, black, white, and blue pads and all the different number SSRs (1,2,2.5, and 3). I don't want to do through the paint, but I also don't want to induce more machine scratching. 3. My other option with these cars is to take it to a professional local detailer. He quoted me $250 to do each of them. I know that this is definitely the easy way out, but since I bought all these supplies I think it would make sense to learn to use them so it was worth it. What do you guys think? I appreciate any comments you may have. Thanks, Mike __________________ 1995 BMW M3 - 11.76 @ 126mph on street radials To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 2000 Jeep WJ - DD To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 2003 Yamaha 250f - Backyard Bandit To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 2010 Gary Fisher Mako - Exercise Betches To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

09-15-2008, 03:31 PM	#2
Spocknasty Meh Join Date: Oct 2005 Member #986 iTrader: (5)	You really don't want to induce more scratching, you want to induce more heat. Heat will level the paint. Don't put pressure down on the buffer, that is what is causing it to bog. That and you might need to clean your pads. Be VERY careful on plastic panels like bumpers. You can sheer the paint right off if you heat them up too much. Don't be afraid to tape up badges and plastic trim. __________________ formerly CRXed To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. I <3 JSC Speed and Liquid Powder Coats!

09-15-2008, 09:10 PM	#4
Spocknasty Meh Join Date: Oct 2005 Member #986 iTrader: (5)	I'm retired. __________________ formerly CRXed To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. I <3 JSC Speed and Liquid Powder Coats!

10-31-2008, 11:25 AM	#9
Erik Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: Glenside, PA Member #1962 My Ride: 2001 Audi A6 2.7 Twin Turbo iTrader: (4)	ditchin dem swerlz ey lolz post pics of the paint, im curious to see what your progress looks like __________________ --Eric '96 Mazda Miata \| FM V-Maxx Coilovers \| Jackson Racing Exhaust/Intake GONE To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 01' Audi A6 2.7 Twin Turbo \| Daily \| NoMods

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