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EM2Pa · 10-08-2005, 04:02 PM

hit puddle, mind u i was going only 30, it was like a 10 ft long puddle, brakes locked cuz i dont got abs and i slid into the side. the wheel hit the side and now the steering is crooked. i can go in straight but i have to turn the wheel like 30 degrees to the left in order to keep going straight. what should i expect to have to get fixed once i take it in? any help is appreciated. thanx. The wheel is scratched up but its not like turned out or in or nuttin. its just that the steering is all messed up. maybe its the steering column or the power steering. its really loose between the top and where i turn it to go straight. Also really hard to keep car straight. TIA

edit: what am i looking at damage wise. just an idea so i dont go in blind when i get it assessed.

**TROLL** · 10-08-2005, 04:11 PM

i wouldnt drive it again until you have it looked at. aside from being potentially dangrous to drive, you could have bent some of your steering/suspension components and continuing to drive on them like that could make the problem worse and more expensive to fix.
bryan

2point4DSM · 10-08-2005, 09:10 PM

It could cost you as little as a wheel alignment to as much as a couple thousand. There is no real way to predict stuff like this. Some cars take abuse better than others and some cars are just plain costly to fix.

If you keep driving it like this then expect to buy new tires on top of all the damage.

Good luck with it.

teh DIRT · 10-08-2005, 11:23 PM

i did the same thing....but mine was undrivable afterwards. I spend a total of thirty dollars thanks to an awesome subie community and me doing the work myself

sesolcSTI · 10-08-2005, 11:34 PM

Ivan knows about bent steering and suspension components, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, oh man good times (for those of you that know what im talking about, hahahahaha)

teh DIRT · 10-08-2005, 11:36 PM

haha.

3curbs+one understeering 200sx= pWND

Seriously though, if your close to me ill come take a look at it.

sesolcSTI · 10-08-2005, 11:39 PM

DUDE, i cant stop laughing about it!!!!!!!!!!! That was friggin classic!!!!!! I just keep seeing him launching over those parking lot islands, LMFAO!!!

P.S. I really hope that its not serious! Hopefully you got lucky!

EM2Pa · 10-09-2005, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teh DIRT

haha.

3curbs+one understeering 200sx= pWND

Seriously though, if your close to me ill come take a look at it.

hey man, im near west chester, pa. u near there or where u located at? im having it checked out next week. for now im not driving it until i get it checked and ill be driving it there but very cautiously. it doesn't look like the tire is turned in or nuttin or bent. it just seems like the steering it totally messed up. its like the power steering isn't working or something.

teh DIRT · 10-09-2005, 12:40 AM

you probably just bent the tie rod. your most likely gona need a new steering rack. Other things to check out are:

strut/spring
wheel bearing
hub
spindle
Front sway bar
control arm

90gt · 10-12-2005, 03:45 PM

i think you just need alignment.

Intercooled T · 10-12-2005, 03:48 PM

control arm, wheel bearing, alignment...been there, done that.

is your wheel rubbing your fender when its positioned straight?

DropTopChevy · 10-12-2005, 04:10 PM

I personally hit a curb in the rain last thanksgiving and i bent the lower control arm and screwed up the alignment something fierce, but i did all of the work myself with a used control arm and new sway bar bolts. Sorta hard fix with the front suspension and steering being involved and eyeing up the allignment to pull into pepboys even though they didnt do the allignment much better than my eyes did. If you are somewhat mechanically inclined and have help id say save your money and DIY

Miller

EM2Pa · 10-12-2005, 08:20 PM

took it to the shop, guy saw no physical damage and said theyll send it to the alignment place to get it fixed. ill update when its finished. i think its mostly just an alignment cuz i could drive it fine, just the wheel was off and a little toe i felt.

ho1ywars · 10-12-2005, 08:42 PM

dude, i hit a curb two weeks ago.. worst feeling ever.

blown strut
messed up alignment
messed up wheel

Little G · 10-13-2005, 12:07 AM

That sux...Did you that around west chester??

EM2Pa · 10-13-2005, 04:50 PM

yea i did this around wc. heres the specs i promised. all it needed was a major alignment that took 2 days to do.

before.....

Left front Right front
Camber 0.0 Camber -.02
Caster 2.5 Caster 2.5
toe .25 Toe .02
Steer ahead .12 deg

Left Rear Right Rear
Camber .2 Camber -1.7
Toe .54 Toe .47
Thrust angle .04

After
Left front Right front
Camber -.01 Camber -.01
Caster 2.5 Caster 2.5
Toe 0.03 Toe -.01
Steer ahead 0.02

Left Rear Right rear
Camber -.5 Camber -.9
Toe 0.08 Toe 0.08
Thrust angle 0.00

sur4die · 10-14-2005, 10:15 AM

so you hit on the left side???

looks like your rear camber is still a little fudged. those numbers should match. expect to hold accelerating left turns much better than right turns. (well, depending on the drive wheels)

what kinda car is this anyway?

EM2Pa · 10-14-2005, 12:09 PM

fwd 03 civic, i hit the right front

oh and im lowered over 2 inches

sur4die · 10-14-2005, 12:53 PM

did you ever align it after lowering it? because those before left side numbers look WAY off.

anyway, glad to hear that it was only allignment.

EM2Pa · 10-15-2005, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sur4die

did you ever align it after lowering it? because those before left side numbers look WAY off.

anyway, glad to hear that it was only allignment.

yea its been aligned like twice after i lowered it and i hit the curb so that knocked off the specs. now its back on tho.

10-08-2005, 04:02 PM	#1
EM2Pa Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Oct 2005 Member #933 iTrader: (0)	Help... crashed my baby :( hit puddle, mind u i was going only 30, it was like a 10 ft long puddle, brakes locked cuz i dont got abs and i slid into the side. the wheel hit the side and now the steering is crooked. i can go in straight but i have to turn the wheel like 30 degrees to the left in order to keep going straight. what should i expect to have to get fixed once i take it in? any help is appreciated. thanx. The wheel is scratched up but its not like turned out or in or nuttin. its just that the steering is all messed up. maybe its the steering column or the power steering. its really loose between the top and where i turn it to go straight. Also really hard to keep car straight. TIA edit: what am i looking at damage wise. just an idea so i dont go in blind when i get it assessed. Last edited by EM2Pa; 10-08-2005 at 04:06 PM.

10-08-2005, 09:10 PM	#3
2point4DSM Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2005 Member #505 My Ride: 08 Sienna Limited AWD, 07 John Deere riding mower, 03 Honda Pilot, 92 GSX iTrader: (0)	It could cost you as little as a wheel alignment to as much as a couple thousand. There is no real way to predict stuff like this. Some cars take abuse better than others and some cars are just plain costly to fix. If you keep driving it like this then expect to buy new tires on top of all the damage. Good luck with it. __________________ - Wil 08 Sienna, limited AWD w/ laser guided cruise control, FTMFW!

10-08-2005, 11:34 PM	#5
sesolcSTI Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Jersey Member #40 My Ride: 2004 WRB WRX STi iTrader: (1)	Ivan knows about bent steering and suspension components, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL, oh man good times (for those of you that know what im talking about, hahahahaha) __________________ -2004 WRB WRX STi/ Cobb Stage 2/ 292awhp/304tq TST #40 / HP #009 / Blobeye Syndicate #99 GO PITTSBURGH!

10-08-2005, 11:39 PM	#7
sesolcSTI Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Jersey Member #40 My Ride: 2004 WRB WRX STi iTrader: (1)	DUDE, i cant stop laughing about it!!!!!!!!!!! That was friggin classic!!!!!! I just keep seeing him launching over those parking lot islands, LMFAO!!! P.S. I really hope that its not serious! Hopefully you got lucky! __________________ -2004 WRB WRX STi/ Cobb Stage 2/ 292awhp/304tq TST #40 / HP #009 / Blobeye Syndicate #99 GO PITTSBURGH!

10-12-2005, 03:48 PM	#11
Intercooled T Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fairless Hills, PA Member #207 My Ride: 2003 Toyota Rav4 iTrader: (0)	control arm, wheel bearing, alignment...been there, done that. is your wheel rubbing your fender when its positioned straight? __________________ 2003 Toyota Rav4, 2.0L/Auto/AWD To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 2013 Nissan Juke, 1.6T/Auto/FWD (wife's car lol To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. )

10-12-2005, 03:45 PM	#10
90gt Noob-Jersey Banned Join Date: Sep 2005 Member #811 iTrader: (0)	i think you just need alignment.

10-12-2005, 04:10 PM	#12
DropTopChevy Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a big house Member #242 My Ride: 2002 2.8 30V V6 iTrader: (6)	I personally hit a curb in the rain last thanksgiving and i bent the lower control arm and screwed up the alignment something fierce, but i did all of the work myself with a used control arm and new sway bar bolts. Sorta hard fix with the front suspension and steering being involved and eyeing up the allignment to pull into pepboys even though they didnt do the allignment much better than my eyes did. If you are somewhat mechanically inclined and have help id say save your money and DIY Miller __________________ The great thing about being an architect is that you can walk into your dreams. - Harold E. Wagoner, 1986

10-12-2005, 08:20 PM	#13
EM2Pa Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Oct 2005 Member #933 iTrader: (0)	took it to the shop, guy saw no physical damage and said theyll send it to the alignment place to get it fixed. ill update when its finished. i think its mostly just an alignment cuz i could drive it fine, just the wheel was off and a little toe i felt.

10-12-2005, 08:42 PM	#14
ho1ywars Tri-State Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ewing, New Jersey Member #282 My Ride: S14, EF, 600RR iTrader: (2)	dude, i hit a curb two weeks ago.. worst feeling ever. blown strut messed up alignment messed up wheel

10-13-2005, 12:07 AM	#15
Little G Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mainline What !! Member #488 My Ride: 08 Mitsubishi Evo X iTrader: (0)	That sux...Did you that around west chester?? __________________ And Then What !!!!!!

10-13-2005, 04:50 PM	#16
EM2Pa Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Oct 2005 Member #933 iTrader: (0)	yea i did this around wc. heres the specs i promised. all it needed was a major alignment that took 2 days to do. before..... Left front Right front Camber 0.0 Camber -.02 Caster 2.5 Caster 2.5 toe .25 Toe .02 Steer ahead .12 deg Left Rear Right Rear Camber .2 Camber -1.7 Toe .54 Toe .47 Thrust angle .04 After Left front Right front Camber -.01 Camber -.01 Caster 2.5 Caster 2.5 Toe 0.03 Toe -.01 Steer ahead 0.02 Left Rear Right rear Camber -.5 Camber -.9 Toe 0.08 Toe 0.08 Thrust angle 0.00

10-14-2005, 10:15 AM	#17
sur4die Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somerdale Member #899 iTrader: (0)	so you hit on the left side??? looks like your rear camber is still a little fudged. those numbers should match. expect to hold accelerating left turns much better than right turns. (well, depending on the drive wheels) what kinda car is this anyway?

10-14-2005, 12:09 PM	#18
EM2Pa Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Oct 2005 Member #933 iTrader: (0)	fwd 03 civic, i hit the right front oh and im lowered over 2 inches

10-14-2005, 12:53 PM	#19
sur4die Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Somerdale Member #899 iTrader: (0)	did you ever align it after lowering it? because those before left side numbers look WAY off. anyway, glad to hear that it was only allignment.

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