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OBEEWON · 03-16-2008, 01:49 PM

I DEFY anyone to have worse luck than me...

Brand new cams, in use for less than 30 min. SECOND set.

The cam lobes are supposed to be facing AWAY from eachother.

CHAOS · 03-16-2008, 01:51 PM

did the cams twist or something?

OBEEWON · 03-16-2008, 01:53 PM

The dowel pin that goes in the sprocket snapped off. Cam spun at least 180* causing no compression, which is why the car shut off. Now I just have to guess how many valves I bent.

CHAOS · 03-16-2008, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

The dowel pin that goes in the sprocket snapped off. Cam spun at least 180* causing no compression, which is why the car shut off. Now I just have to guess how many valves I bent.

oh ****. sorry man.

NOPSTNS · 03-16-2008, 01:55 PM

im the last person to be giving cam advice, but maybe one of them is 180 out? or both????????????

do they have timing marks on them? like on the cam gear at all? did the gears come assembled onto the cams when u opened the box or did u have to put them on? if u had to put them on are they machined ina way that they can only be put on one way??????????

OBEEWON · 03-16-2008, 01:55 PM

First set of cams I purchased from the SAME company were 13* off center, causing my timing to be so screwed up I dyno'd 277whp at 22psi!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Moments later my motor blew.
Who thinks I should take a trip to Cali and burn down said company??

NOPSTNS · 03-16-2008, 01:56 PM

ok u beat me to it....so something did go 180 out...look at that...sorry man

im da greatest cam diagnoser evar.

maybe i should get a piston engine car

OBEEWON · 03-16-2008, 01:57 PM

The cams have pins in them, with the motor at TDC there is only one way they can go in. Everything was lubed and torqued to spec so there is no other reason for this to happen but the cams were made of butt cheeks.

a-m-m · 03-16-2008, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBEEWON

Who thinks I should take a trip to Cali and burn down said company??

<<<<

What made you give them a second chance?

sr20de · 03-16-2008, 02:12 PM

Who makes the cams?

OBEEWON · 03-16-2008, 02:14 PM

Brian Crower. Heard only good things about his stuff minus 3 people who had the same cams I did the first time around. What can I say, I guess Im too nice...

jdmwill · 03-16-2008, 02:14 PM

dude wtf... i guess we'll be calling somebody on monday.

Gorilla Unit 33 · 03-16-2008, 02:15 PM

said company is well known but for some odd reason you get the monday or friday parts

NOPSTNS · 03-16-2008, 02:19 PM

crower? they are very popular man how the hell did this happen? id be sending an email and making a fone call if i were u....specially after loosing an engine beforehand too!

OBEEWON · 03-16-2008, 02:22 PM

I already called about the first set of cams. People get real defensive when you suggest anything but them being the best at what they do. So I let the first one slide.

Already left a message and sent an email with all the pictures. They need to give me a free stroker kit and build this engine so I can sell the car.

TurboTagTeam · 03-16-2008, 02:42 PM

I bet you only tapped 1 and 4. I'v had adjustable cam gears break on me a few times. Usally you just tap a few valves and it's a pretty simple fix considering what happened.

I agree that BC needs a beat down....Do work!

Evo8kid · 03-16-2008, 03:03 PM

damn Brian Crowers? That surprises me because they are very well known in the 4G63 world. Good luck with getting this resolved

OBEEWON · 03-16-2008, 03:09 PM

Yeah thats why I tried him again, cuz I know things happen, but this is strike two. My whole head is Crower. He better be on his dean when I call him tomarrow.

sponsored1 · 03-16-2008, 03:21 PM

Is there any scoring on the cam caps? This happens sometimes when people switch around cam caps and the cams actually seize in the caps enough that it will cause the gear to rip itself right off the camshaft and break the pin. Did you check the cam to cam cap clearances? Also some other part of the valve train that is binding may cause the cam to bind up as well. One other possibilty is that the cam gear bolt didnt get torqued properly and came loose.

sr20de · 03-16-2008, 04:15 PM

That really sucks. JWT all the way. Get your money back and get yourself a set of S4's and be done with it.

03-16-2008, 01:49 PM	#1
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	I have the WORST luck with getting bum parts I DEFY anyone to have worse luck than me... Brand new cams, in use for less than 30 min. SECOND set. The cam lobes are supposed to be facing AWAY from eachother. __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by OBEEWON; 03-16-2008 at 01:51 PM.

03-16-2008, 01:53 PM	#3
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	The dowel pin that goes in the sprocket snapped off. Cam spun at least 180* causing no compression, which is why the car shut off. Now I just have to guess how many valves I bent. __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-16-2008, 01:55 PM	#6
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	First set of cams I purchased from the SAME company were 13* off center, causing my timing to be so screwed up I dyno'd 277whp at 22psi!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Moments later my motor blew. Who thinks I should take a trip to Cali and burn down said company?? __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-16-2008, 01:57 PM	#8
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	The cams have pins in them, with the motor at TDC there is only one way they can go in. Everything was lubed and torqued to spec so there is no other reason for this to happen but the cams were made of butt cheeks. __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-16-2008, 02:12 PM	#10
sr20de Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Delaware Member #1110 iTrader: (2)	Who makes the cams? __________________ -Kevin 92 Sentra SE-R Turbo 96 200sx SE-R sr20ve

03-16-2008, 01:51 PM	#2
CHAOS TST Ruined My Life! Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2120 My Ride: 1984 Cadillac Brougham iTrader: (1)	did the cams twist or something?

03-16-2008, 01:55 PM	#5
NOPSTNS Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Member #3176 iTrader: (0)	im the last person to be giving cam advice, but maybe one of them is 180 out? or both???????????? do they have timing marks on them? like on the cam gear at all? did the gears come assembled onto the cams when u opened the box or did u have to put them on? if u had to put them on are they machined ina way that they can only be put on one way??????????

03-16-2008, 01:56 PM	#7
NOPSTNS Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Member #3176 iTrader: (0)	ok u beat me to it....so something did go 180 out...look at that...sorry man im da greatest cam diagnoser evar. maybe i should get a piston engine car

03-16-2008, 02:14 PM	#11
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	Brian Crower. Heard only good things about his stuff minus 3 people who had the same cams I did the first time around. What can I say, I guess Im too nice... __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-16-2008, 02:14 PM	#12
jdmwill Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: edison, nj Member #5436 My Ride: daily s13 slammed drifty ready, drift car ae86 sr20 powered...20" mongoose for fun iTrader: (4)	dude wtf... i guess we'll be calling somebody on monday. __________________ I LOVE MOJO CHICKEN

03-16-2008, 02:15 PM	#13
Gorilla Unit 33 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where do you live? Member #532 My Ride: Fly Mosca II w/pegs LOLZ iTrader: (7)	said company is well known but for some odd reason you get the monday or friday parts __________________ find me here: gorillaunit33.wordpress.com

03-16-2008, 02:19 PM	#14
NOPSTNS Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Member #3176 iTrader: (0)	crower? they are very popular man how the hell did this happen? id be sending an email and making a fone call if i were u....specially after loosing an engine beforehand too!

03-16-2008, 02:22 PM	#15
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	I already called about the first set of cams. People get real defensive when you suggest anything but them being the best at what they do. So I let the first one slide. Already left a message and sent an email with all the pictures. They need to give me a free stroker kit and build this engine so I can sell the car. __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-16-2008, 02:42 PM	#16
TurboTagTeam Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cell Block F Member #275 My Ride: constantly changes iTrader: (2)	I bet you only tapped 1 and 4. I'v had adjustable cam gears break on me a few times. Usally you just tap a few valves and it's a pretty simple fix considering what happened. I agree that BC needs a beat down....Do work!

03-16-2008, 03:03 PM	#17
Evo8kid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Member #1631 My Ride: contributes towards Global warming iTrader: (0)	damn Brian Crowers? That surprises me because they are very well known in the 4G63 world. Good luck with getting this resolved __________________ TurboTagTeam is my crew chief 1996 Nissan 240sx- To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 6.7L Turbo Diesel 2008 Audi RS4- 420 HP 4.2L V8 2004 Honda CBR600RR

03-16-2008, 03:09 PM	#18
OBEEWON Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hightened State of Emergency Member #1315 My Ride: Lansdale Local iTrader: (1)	Yeah thats why I tried him again, cuz I know things happen, but this is strike two. My whole head is Crower. He better be on his dean when I call him tomarrow. __________________ E .· \' ' ·. F To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-16-2008, 03:21 PM	#19
sponsored1 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Buckingham, Pa Member #1049 My Ride: POS with a diff and giant brakes iTrader: (2)	Is there any scoring on the cam caps? This happens sometimes when people switch around cam caps and the cams actually seize in the caps enough that it will cause the gear to rip itself right off the camshaft and break the pin. Did you check the cam to cam cap clearances? Also some other part of the valve train that is binding may cause the cam to bind up as well. One other possibilty is that the cam gear bolt didnt get torqued properly and came loose. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 1995 s10 1999 Svt Contour 1972 Bmw 2002 1978 Gs 1000, 2003 Gsxr 600

03-16-2008, 04:15 PM	#20
sr20de Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Delaware Member #1110 iTrader: (2)	That really sucks. JWT all the way. Get your money back and get yourself a set of S4's and be done with it. __________________ -Kevin 92 Sentra SE-R Turbo 96 200sx SE-R sr20ve

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