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Verocious · 02-06-2008, 01:12 PM

Unitronic software is now here!

Hey guys and gals

We are thinking about adding Unitronic to out tuning lineup and would like to know who is interested in this software. This software is for VW/Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Volvo and most other Euro makes. Currently Unitronic offers flashes for just about every VW/Audi with a standard or Larger turbo. This includeds TDi's. We would be mainly focusing on the VW/Audi's in the beginning.

Here is a list of engine/ecu's that are currently tuneable.

VAG Module Supports:

EDC15
VAG 1.9L TDI / TDI PD
VAG 1.4L TDI PD
VAG 2.5L TDI
VAG 1.2L TDI PD
VAG 1.4L TDI PD

EDC16
VAG 1.9L PD TDI
VAG 2.0L PD TDI
VAG 3.0L PD TDI
VAG 4.0L PD TDI
VAG 5.0L PD TDI

M3.8.x/M5.9.x
VAG 1.8L NA
VAG 2.0L NA
VAG 1.8T 20V
VAG 2.3L NA

ME7
VAG 1.8L NA
VAG 1.8T 20V
VAG 2.3L NA
VAG 2.4L NA
VAG 2.5L NA
VAG 2.8L VR6 NA
VAG 3.2L VR6 NA
VAG W8 4.0L NA
VAG V6 3.0L NA
VAG 2.7L BI-TURBO
VAG W8 4.2L NA
VAG 3.7L NA
VAG 4.5L NA

MED9
VAG 2.0L TFSI / FSIVAG Module Supports:

Andy

DropTopChevy · 02-06-2008, 02:29 PM

Would you guys be doing anything for the 2.8 passat V6? No turbo

Verocious · 02-06-2008, 02:46 PM

Yes, we would be able to tune just about any VW/Audi motor.

SmokeyBandit · 02-06-2008, 05:41 PM

you have your work cut out because when people think chip tuning for VW's....

they think:
APR
GIAC
Revo

when it comes to TDIs....
Rocketchip
Aligator

deb38 · 02-06-2008, 05:47 PM

Unitronic tune for a gt25 or gt28 s4?

DropTopChevy · 02-06-2008, 09:43 PM

I have been looking at GIAC for a while now, but haven't bought one yet. PES tuning also has a chip out but their hp and torque gains just seems a little too much for a chip on the 2.8. So as of right now I'm looking around and trying to get other peoples opinions before I buy any chip.

naDintheHat · 02-06-2008, 11:41 PM

hmm.. so this possible on the 2.0L na (ABA)? if so any idea on what i would be looking at for it?

Verocious · 02-07-2008, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyBandit

you have your work cut out because when people think chip tuning for VW's....

they think:
APR
GIAC
Revo

when it comes to TDIs....
Rocketchip
Aligator

The main issue I have with the standard VW/Audi reflash is that there is normally only one flash available for a particular setup. That is not saying you can not switch between octane levels, boost levels etc. There is no way you can have one flash work for every car in the nation. There is a huge difference in fuel formulations just on the East Coast, not to mention across the country. Also, no two cars are the same, even with the same bolt ons. I have tuned countless Subaru with similar setups and have never had the mapping come out the same. With that being said I will get to my actual point. As far as I know Unitronic is the only company currently working on end user tuning software. It is not available yet, but very shortly. This means that you bring me your car and I tune your car for its setup. Not using a map someone made in California to run in a car on the East Coast that is close to your setup. I will actually tune your car for your particular setup.

Just about any motor configuration from VW/Audi will be tuneable. I really dont want to start talking price yet on the reflashes as this is only a feeler currently.

Andy

dwl137 · 02-07-2008, 12:34 PM

I've talked to a few people that have been flashed with Unitronic and every one of them seems very happy with the results. Most charts I've seen show them to be on par if not higher outputs than the other companies. I'd say go for it since there really aren't many places that do it. Last I checked the closest was NY. I'm currently not flashed by any company, so I think the more options available the better.

NJGOAT · 02-07-2008, 12:48 PM

I would be all over this. I just picked up my 2.7T A6 and have been debating the mod path to go with. I came from the LSx world where custom tuning is everywhere and is the preferred method. I have just never 100% trusted canned tunes that are the same for every car. Especially when you get into varying levels of bolt-ons, there is no way a canned tune is right.

The other big thing for VW/Audi guys is Tiptronic transmission programming. I bought an auotmatic as this will eventually be the wife's car and I do a TON of city driving. From what I've read the trans' are very strong, but need some serious re-programming. GIAC currently offers a chip solution and so does VAST Performance. The VAST solution is new but is supposed to be waaayyy better than the GIAC one. Would you be able to tune the trans TCU's as well?

If you do go ahead with the software, I am more than willing to let you play with my car....it's still under warranty until June, lol.

Verocious · 02-07-2008, 12:53 PM

That is a very good question about the Tiptronic transmissions. I will contact Unitronic and see what they say.

dwl137 · 02-07-2008, 01:06 PM

The reason the companies go with a basic tune for all cars for VW/Audi is because the Bosch ECU's are capable of adjusting themselves to keep the car running well. From everything I've read, mainly on the Bosch ME units, is that they're quite advanced. I agree though that nothing compares to a custom tune, it's just not common on the VW/Audi scene.

leg · 02-07-2008, 03:40 PM

do u have software for a gt30 on a 97 a4 1.8?

Verocious · 02-07-2008, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwl137

The reason the companies go with a basic tune for all cars for VW/Audi is because the Bosch ECU's are capable of adjusting themselves to keep the car running well. From everything I've read, mainly on the Bosch ME units, is that they're quite advanced. I agree though that nothing compares to a custom tune, it's just not common on the VW/Audi scene.

The Bosch ECU's do not have any more adaptability than 90% of the stock ECU's out there. They actually have less ability to learn than a Subaru ECU form what I have seen. I was a factory Mercedes Benz tech for 5 years and factory BMW tech for a year so I have plenty of experience with the Bosch control units. Once you go into open loop in the ECU, there is very little if any learning that takes place. Subarus use a very active ignition system. Where as most other ECU's use fixed timing numbers and wait for knock to occur to remove timing. This is in no was a learning feature. Just a reaction to a cause.

Verocious · 02-07-2008, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leg

do u have software for a gt30 on a 97 a4 1.8?

We do not currently have the software, but when we get on board with Unitronic we will be able to tune that setup.

RyanG · 02-07-2008, 05:12 PM

Andy,

In all honesty I would go for it. Even though I wont touch a VW it would be an awesome option considering the amount of VW's in the area that have no where to turn for tuning.

Verocious · 02-07-2008, 06:28 PM

Thanks for the input Ryan. I have a soft spot in my heart for the VW's. Its what I cut my teeth on. My first car was a 84 GTI. I have had 4 other MKI GTI's, a 16v Scirocco, an 8 and 16 valve MKII, I skipped the MKIII's, then moved to a VR6 MKIV. The MKIV was my last VW. My favorite VW to date was when I combined my 16v Scirocco and one of my 84 GTI's. That car was a blast. It had the 16v motor, brakes and interior. I would really like to build one again.

cmr076 · 02-08-2008, 11:05 AM

would chipping a 2.8 NA really show much gains? i know the giac tune only give like 10(ish) hp and less torque...

Verocious · 02-08-2008, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmr076

would chipping a 2.8 NA really show much gains? i know the giac tune only give like 10(ish) hp and less torque...

It would really depend on what is done to the car and what octane fuel you normally run.

cmr076 · 02-08-2008, 01:23 PM

the only problem is they make NOTHING for the car that i have found; no exhausts, intakes, or even short shifters

i'd be willing to chip it but the cost to benefit would have to be there and at 600 dollars through AWE for 10 hp it dosent seem worth it.

02-06-2008, 01:12 PM	#1
Verocious Vendor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wilmington, DE Member #3950 iTrader: (0)	VW/Audi software from Unitronic Unitronic software is now here! Hey guys and gals We are thinking about adding Unitronic to out tuning lineup and would like to know who is interested in this software. This software is for VW/Audi, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Volvo and most other Euro makes. Currently Unitronic offers flashes for just about every VW/Audi with a standard or Larger turbo. This includeds TDi's. We would be mainly focusing on the VW/Audi's in the beginning. Here is a list of engine/ecu's that are currently tuneable. VAG Module Supports: EDC15 VAG 1.9L TDI / TDI PD VAG 1.4L TDI PD VAG 2.5L TDI VAG 1.2L TDI PD VAG 1.4L TDI PD EDC16 VAG 1.9L PD TDI VAG 2.0L PD TDI VAG 3.0L PD TDI VAG 4.0L PD TDI VAG 5.0L PD TDI M3.8.x/M5.9.x VAG 1.8L NA VAG 2.0L NA VAG 1.8T 20V VAG 2.3L NA ME7 VAG 1.8L NA VAG 1.8T 20V VAG 2.3L NA VAG 2.4L NA VAG 2.5L NA VAG 2.8L VR6 NA VAG 3.2L VR6 NA VAG W8 4.0L NA VAG V6 3.0L NA VAG 2.7L BI-TURBO VAG W8 4.2L NA VAG 3.7L NA VAG 4.5L NA MED9 VAG 2.0L TFSI / FSIVAG Module Supports: Andy __________________ Verocious Motorsports 818C S. Heald St. Wilmington, DE 19801 p: 302.472.8888 (local) p: 877-VMS-1320 (toll free) e: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Shop online at: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by Verocious; 02-29-2008 at 11:32 AM. Reason: We now have Unitronic Software available!

02-06-2008, 02:29 PM	#2
DropTopChevy Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a big house Member #242 My Ride: 2002 2.8 30V V6 iTrader: (6)	Would you guys be doing anything for the 2.8 passat V6? No turbo __________________ The great thing about being an architect is that you can walk into your dreams. - Harold E. Wagoner, 1986

02-06-2008, 02:46 PM	#3
Verocious Vendor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wilmington, DE Member #3950 iTrader: (0)	Yes, we would be able to tune just about any VW/Audi motor. __________________ Verocious Motorsports 818C S. Heald St. Wilmington, DE 19801 p: 302.472.8888 (local) p: 877-VMS-1320 (toll free) e: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Shop online at: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

02-06-2008, 05:41 PM	#4
SmokeyBandit Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lake Hiawatha, NJ Member #194 iTrader: (0)	you have your work cut out because when people think chip tuning for VW's.... they think: APR GIAC Revo when it comes to TDIs.... Rocketchip Aligator __________________ my FAST is grown up and drives a family station wagon

02-06-2008, 05:47 PM	#5
deb38 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Manayunk PA Member #5266 My Ride: 2001 Audi S4 iTrader: (0)	Unitronic tune for a gt25 or gt28 s4? __________________ Older Setup - Custom Tuned Stage 3 S4 Old Setup - Built 2.7 Single S366 Turbo New Setup - RS6's, Meth, Dumps. Sitting on Jack Stands To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

02-06-2008, 09:43 PM	#6
DropTopChevy Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a big house Member #242 My Ride: 2002 2.8 30V V6 iTrader: (6)	I have been looking at GIAC for a while now, but haven't bought one yet. PES tuning also has a chip out but their hp and torque gains just seems a little too much for a chip on the 2.8. So as of right now I'm looking around and trying to get other peoples opinions before I buy any chip. __________________ The great thing about being an architect is that you can walk into your dreams. - Harold E. Wagoner, 1986

02-06-2008, 11:41 PM	#7
naDintheHat Tri-State Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Allentown, Pa Member #2360 My Ride: 94 GTI - Br0ke, 98 GTI - Stock.. iTrader: (0)	hmm.. so this possible on the 2.0L na (ABA)? if so any idea on what i would be looking at for it? __________________ I drive a constantly broken, model confused vehicle. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

02-07-2008, 12:34 PM	#9
dwl137 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tyrone, PA Member #1248 My Ride: 2013 MX-5 Club, 2011 Golf TDI iTrader: (0)	I've talked to a few people that have been flashed with Unitronic and every one of them seems very happy with the results. Most charts I've seen show them to be on par if not higher outputs than the other companies. I'd say go for it since there really aren't many places that do it. Last I checked the closest was NY. I'm currently not flashed by any company, so I think the more options available the better.

02-07-2008, 12:48 PM	#10
NJGOAT Tri-State Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Moorestown, NJ Member #1583 iTrader: (0)	I would be all over this. I just picked up my 2.7T A6 and have been debating the mod path to go with. I came from the LSx world where custom tuning is everywhere and is the preferred method. I have just never 100% trusted canned tunes that are the same for every car. Especially when you get into varying levels of bolt-ons, there is no way a canned tune is right. The other big thing for VW/Audi guys is Tiptronic transmission programming. I bought an auotmatic as this will eventually be the wife's car and I do a TON of city driving. From what I've read the trans' are very strong, but need some serious re-programming. GIAC currently offers a chip solution and so does VAST Performance. The VAST solution is new but is supposed to be waaayyy better than the GIAC one. Would you be able to tune the trans TCU's as well? If you do go ahead with the software, I am more than willing to let you play with my car....it's still under warranty until June, lol. __________________ *Current Ride:* 2004 Audi A6 2.7T S-Line *Former Rides:* 2005 VW Jetta GLI, 2003 Chevy Avalanche, 2000 Audi A4, 2004 Pontiac GTO, 2003 VW Jetta GLI, 1998 Mustang GT, 1994 Jeep Wrangler To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

02-07-2008, 12:53 PM	#11
Verocious Vendor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wilmington, DE Member #3950 iTrader: (0)	That is a very good question about the Tiptronic transmissions. I will contact Unitronic and see what they say. __________________ Verocious Motorsports 818C S. Heald St. Wilmington, DE 19801 p: 302.472.8888 (local) p: 877-VMS-1320 (toll free) e: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Shop online at: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

02-07-2008, 01:06 PM	#12
dwl137 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tyrone, PA Member #1248 My Ride: 2013 MX-5 Club, 2011 Golf TDI iTrader: (0)	The reason the companies go with a basic tune for all cars for VW/Audi is because the Bosch ECU's are capable of adjusting themselves to keep the car running well. From everything I've read, mainly on the Bosch ME units, is that they're quite advanced. I agree though that nothing compares to a custom tune, it's just not common on the VW/Audi scene.

02-07-2008, 03:40 PM	#13
leg Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Nov 2007 Member #6168 My Ride: volvo c30 iTrader: (0)	do u have software for a gt30 on a 97 a4 1.8? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

02-07-2008, 05:12 PM	#16
RyanG Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Easton, PA Member #63 iTrader: (1)	Andy, In all honesty I would go for it. Even though I wont touch a VW it would be an awesome option considering the amount of VW's in the area that have no where to turn for tuning. __________________ I am Area1320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

02-07-2008, 06:28 PM	#17
Verocious Vendor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wilmington, DE Member #3950 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the input Ryan. I have a soft spot in my heart for the VW's. Its what I cut my teeth on. My first car was a 84 GTI. I have had 4 other MKI GTI's, a 16v Scirocco, an 8 and 16 valve MKII, I skipped the MKIII's, then moved to a VR6 MKIV. The MKIV was my last VW. My favorite VW to date was when I combined my 16v Scirocco and one of my 84 GTI's. That car was a blast. It had the 16v motor, brakes and interior. I would really like to build one again. __________________ Verocious Motorsports 818C S. Heald St. Wilmington, DE 19801 p: 302.472.8888 (local) p: 877-VMS-1320 (toll free) e: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Shop online at: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

02-08-2008, 11:05 AM	#18
cmr076 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: blue bell/gwynedd valley, PA Member #2319 My Ride: S4 iTrader: (8)	would chipping a 2.8 NA really show much gains? i know the giac tune only give like 10(ish) hp and less torque... __________________ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246R

02-08-2008, 01:23 PM	#20
cmr076 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: blue bell/gwynedd valley, PA Member #2319 My Ride: S4 iTrader: (8)	the only problem is they make NOTHING for the car that i have found; no exhausts, intakes, or even short shifters i'd be willing to chip it but the cost to benefit would have to be there and at 600 dollars through AWE for 10 hp it dosent seem worth it. __________________ 135 ├┼┼╕ 246R

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