AMS 50 trim vs. Buschur FP3065 - TriStateTuners.com :: Home of Tristate Auto Enthusiast

redline · 11-18-2007, 11:53 PM

Allright DSM and Evo guys what do you think and why? I am leaning towards the Buschur due to price and I like Dave and the Buschur crew. But the AMS kit is pure sex from the manifold to DP!

AMS 50 Trim = http://www.amsperformance.com/store/...roducts_id=805

Buschur Racing FP3065 = https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...2de94e1ec1333d

jordanrw · 11-19-2007, 12:08 AM

are you ****ing seriously gonna spend that much dough on that?????!?! You need to give us a call so you can get something that makes more power for A LOT cheaper.

Silverfc88 · 11-19-2007, 12:11 AM

From taking a quick look at the kits I like the Buschur kit better already. It comes with the bigger wastegate with the better flange design and a FP turbo. I have never heard any problems with the FP turbos and I heard there customer service is top notch.

What injectors are you going to run? 880's + ?

Edit: I'm going along with above. You can probably build a kit for much cheaper.

redline · 11-19-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jordanrw

are you ****ing seriously gonna spend that much dough on that?????!?! You need to give us a call so you can get something that makes more power for A LOT cheaper.

Well for one I want it to look tits and you can't go wrong with either kit. If you can find me a setup with a nice tubular manifold then go ahead and post it up.

And to 95Nracer, yes 880's are still tunable on the factory ECU without idle issues as seen with 1000's from what I have researched.

TrboChicsRock · 11-19-2007, 12:29 AM

What are your goals?

50 trims are great pump gas/street turbos.

The FP3065 will make around the same or maybe a little more power on pump gas as the 50 trim, but with slightly more lag. But it will really shine with race gas, unlike the 50 trim.

I currently run the FP3065 on my GSX and previously ran a 50 trim. I like both turbos, but definitely am a lot more happy with the FP3065.

redline · 11-19-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TrboChicsRock

What are your goals?

50 trims are great pump gas/street turbos.

The FP3065 will make around the same or maybe a little more power on pump gas as the 50 trim, but with slightly more lag. But it will really shine with race gas, unlike the 50 trim.

I currently run the FP3065 on my GSX and previously ran a 50 trim. I like both turbos, but definitely am a lot more happy with the FP3065.

I plan to street/track the car and with gas prices in Europe pump gas is the only option for me. I am looking for 400-450.

jordanrw · 11-19-2007, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by redline

Well for one I want it to look tits and you can't go wrong with either kit. If you can find me a setup with a nice tubular manifold then go ahead and post it up.

And to 95Nracer, yes 880's are still tunable on the factory ECU without idle issues as seen with 1000's from what I have researched.

oh god

redline · 11-19-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jordanrw

oh god

Please elaborate?

SpeedCorps · 11-19-2007, 11:14 PM

1000cc's can be used with the ecu if the tuner knows what he's doing. Sean Ivey can do it. My opinion, I would go with the Buschur kit. Aren't they still having a special sale on those kits?

enigma · 11-20-2007, 12:16 AM

The 50 trim is a nice turbo, i have one on my DSM right now, but i think you might be able to save some money by peicing it together.
I'm sure that in the coming weeks, there will be all kinds of killer deals on turbo's, manifolds, and other stuff that will bump your price down by ALOT!
I got my 50 trim, non ballbearing, for 850, my aftermarket cast manifold (mainly for durability reasons)for 250, slim line fan for 125, wastegate off of ebay for 120(used, but still a tial) O2 housing for 250(punishment racing), made my own midpipe from parts from an exhaust shop($40 in pipe, 20 bucks for a vband offa ebay, and 60 bucks for a flexpipe). That is most of the kit, and i still had enough left over to buy injectors, fuel pump, and a regulator for my setup.
Keep your eyes peeled in the next few weeks for sales from vendors across the WWW.

redline · 11-20-2007, 07:17 PM

I hear what you guys are saying but I really don't want a custome hack-job of used parts and a lot of time. I would rather go with a complete kit and spend one day installing it then get injectors and a tune and be done with it. I am looking to buy an upgrade before spring hits so I have some time to search around. Thanks for all your input.

redline · 11-20-2007, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedCorps

1000cc's can be used with the ecu if the tuner knows what he's doing. Sean Ivey can do it. My opinion, I would go with the Buschur kit. Aren't they still having a special sale on those kits?

Good info!

evomike · 11-20-2007, 07:32 PM

Don't be an idiot buy used, and you need to elaborate on what you wanna do with the car

redline · 11-20-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by evomike

Don't be an idiot buy used, and you need to elaborate on what you wanna do with the car

I see...If I wanted used parts I would of bought a used car. And it is in the thread I plan to street and track the car and go for 400-450 on PUMP no meth, no race gas. Cough..Nurburgring...Cough...

evomike · 11-20-2007, 07:47 PM

Used parts are a way better buy, and if you want those numbers off meth and race gas a 50 trim won't really cut it

redline · 11-20-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by evomike

Used parts are a way better buy, and if you want those numbers off meth and race gas a 50 trim won't really cut it

Of course it will with 280's on a IX

evomike · 11-20-2007, 08:13 PM

I dunno I'm still sayin the 50 trim won't be enough for you and it also depends on the cam some 280's are garbage

redline · 11-20-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by evomike

I dunno I'm still sayin the 50 trim won't be enough for you and it also depends on the cam some 280's are garbage

Well either Cosworths or GSC is what I will run.

evomike · 11-20-2007, 08:56 PM

I am still saying a 30r kit but I would look at other more moderatly priced kits, ams stuff is nice but there is a lot I dislike about it and I have the same to say about buschur kits, there are a lot of kits out there, if I didn't get a great deal however I would piece something together for a fraction of the price, don't get caught up in all the ams buschur hype they are overpriced and not really worth it.

redline · 11-20-2007, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evomike

I am still saying a 30r kit but I would look at other more moderatly priced kits, ams stuff is nice but there is a lot I dislike about it and I have the same to say about buschur kits, there are a lot of kits out there, if I didn't get a great deal however I would piece something together for a fraction of the price, don't get caught up in all the ams buschur hype they are overpriced and not really worth it.

Go ahead and post a link to what you feel is a good deal.

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11-18-2007, 11:53 PM	#1
redline Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Member #784 iTrader: (1)	AMS 50 trim vs. Buschur FP3065 Allright DSM and Evo guys what do you think and why? I am leaning towards the Buschur due to price and I like Dave and the Buschur crew. But the AMS kit is pure sex from the manifold to DP! AMS 50 Trim = http://www.amsperformance.com/store/...roducts_id=805 Buschur Racing FP3065 = https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...2de94e1ec1333d __________________ 2006 Evo 9 Special Edition Last edited by redline; 11-19-2007 at 12:38 AM.

11-19-2007, 12:08 AM	#2
jordanrw Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: JNZ Tuning, PA Member #4200 My Ride: under construction iTrader: (-1)	are you ***ing seriously gonna spend that much dough on that?????!?! You need to give us a call so you can get something that makes more power for A LOT cheaper. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

11-19-2007, 12:11 AM	#3
Silverfc88 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NorCal Member #126 My Ride: 88 RX7 TII, 2012 WRX hatch iTrader: (5)	From taking a quick look at the kits I like the Buschur kit better already. It comes with the bigger wastegate with the better flange design and a FP turbo. I have never heard any problems with the FP turbos and I heard there customer service is top notch. What injectors are you going to run? 880's + ? Edit: I'm going along with above. You can probably build a kit for much cheaper. __________________ formerly 95nracer Instagram @Silverfc88 11.6@123mph Streetport 13bt, Haltech Sprint RE, FIC 1150cc + Delphi 1000cc injectors, Walbro 255, Borg Warner s360 .88, HKS mani, JGS 50mm, Greddy FMIC, HKS Twin Power, AEM water/meth inj

11-19-2007, 12:29 AM	#5
TrboChicsRock Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Member #152 My Ride: 1998 Eclipse GSX, 2012 WRX Premium iTrader: (1)	What are your goals? 50 trims are great pump gas/street turbos. The FP3065 will make around the same or maybe a little more power on pump gas as the 50 trim, but with slightly more lag. But it will really shine with race gas, unlike the 50 trim. I currently run the FP3065 on my GSX and previously ran a 50 trim. I like both turbos, but definitely am a lot more happy with the FP3065. __________________ - Jessica 1998 Eclipse GSX 11.2 @ 126 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

11-19-2007, 11:14 PM	#9
SpeedCorps Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2007 Member #5752 iTrader: (1)	1000cc's can be used with the ecu if the tuner knows what he's doing. Sean Ivey can do it. My opinion, I would go with the Buschur kit. Aren't they still having a special sale on those kits?

11-20-2007, 12:16 AM	#10
enigma Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glenolden ,PA Member #2659 My Ride: Hoopties galore iTrader: (0)	The 50 trim is a nice turbo, i have one on my DSM right now, but i think you might be able to save some money by peicing it together. I'm sure that in the coming weeks, there will be all kinds of killer deals on turbo's, manifolds, and other stuff that will bump your price down by ALOT! I got my 50 trim, non ballbearing, for 850, my aftermarket cast manifold (mainly for durability reasons)for 250, slim line fan for 125, wastegate off of ebay for 120(used, but still a tial) O2 housing for 250(punishment racing), made my own midpipe from parts from an exhaust shop($40 in pipe, 20 bucks for a vband offa ebay, and 60 bucks for a flexpipe). That is most of the kit, and i still had enough left over to buy injectors, fuel pump, and a regulator for my setup. Keep your eyes peeled in the next few weeks for sales from vendors across the WWW. __________________ 2001 Dakota Quad Cab, 1996 Ford F250, 1993 Honda Civic, 1991 Eagle Talon, 1970 Plymouth Duster.

11-20-2007, 07:17 PM	#11
redline Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kaiserslautern, Germany Member #784 iTrader: (1)	I hear what you guys are saying but I really don't want a custome hack-job of used parts and a lot of time. I would rather go with a complete kit and spend one day installing it then get injectors and a tune and be done with it. I am looking to buy an upgrade before spring hits so I have some time to search around. Thanks for all your input. __________________ 2006 Evo 9 Special Edition

11-20-2007, 07:32 PM	#13
evomike Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Member #2578 My Ride: 03 duramax and a 04 evo iTrader: (3)	Don't be an idiot buy used, and you need to elaborate on what you wanna do with the car

11-20-2007, 07:47 PM	#15
evomike Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Member #2578 My Ride: 03 duramax and a 04 evo iTrader: (3)	Used parts are a way better buy, and if you want those numbers off meth and race gas a 50 trim won't really cut it

11-20-2007, 08:13 PM	#17
evomike Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Member #2578 My Ride: 03 duramax and a 04 evo iTrader: (3)	I dunno I'm still sayin the 50 trim won't be enough for you and it also depends on the cam some 280's are garbage

11-20-2007, 08:56 PM	#19
evomike Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Member #2578 My Ride: 03 duramax and a 04 evo iTrader: (3)	I am still saying a 30r kit but I would look at other more moderatly priced kits, ams stuff is nice but there is a lot I dislike about it and I have the same to say about buschur kits, there are a lot of kits out there, if I didn't get a great deal however I would piece something together for a fraction of the price, don't get caught up in all the ams buschur hype they are overpriced and not really worth it.

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