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Omar_MSP · 08-09-2007, 02:25 AM

Well i'm either getting one of the three that i selected.

60 mm

10-22 mm

17-85 mm

Im aiming for the best one to shoot for cars.

the 60 mm is a macro lens, but i don't know how much macro is has. like i know i can get a really close up at a bug, but what about if i just want a picture of the entire car and the background being blurry? i want to do that.

the 10-22 mm is a ultra wide lens. basically skews a picture.

17-85... honestly i see no difference besides the zoom compared to a 18-55 mm...

Im trying to be ready and equiped with the right gear to make sure i get the best out of a picture. i was thinking about the 10-22 because since i can get some nice shots at a wide angle along with the landscape. so a car parked next to a nice building will comeout pretty good. I was really thinking about the 60mm unless i can see better pics of the macro because i would like whole shots of cars just the background blurred... u know?

howielong · 08-09-2007, 09:25 AM

Personally I'd stay away from a Prime lens. Or the 60mm Macro lens. Its harder to get the whole car into the frame with a Prime lens. I use my 50mm some times but in certain instances if you don't have enough room you'll not be able to get the whole car in the shot.

The 10-22 from Canon doesn't seem like a fisheye lens so there isn't going to be much distortation.

The 17-85 seems to be a pretty much a general walk around lens. That you'd use every day. But seeing how you already have a camera and all I'm probably correct in saying that you already do have a general walk about lens like the 17-85.

I'd go to a camera store if you can and try out both lenses. Seeing which one you think will be the best for you. But I'm going to say the 10-22 if you can swing it.

97TurboDSM · 08-09-2007, 02:41 PM

i'd say go with the wide angle lens also. like stated above, im pretty sure that lens for canon isnt a fisheye so you wont get too much distortion from it. play with some at a camera store and see how the pictures come out.

BlackTypeR · 08-09-2007, 03:51 PM

I would go with the 10-22 as well. Here's a link on what other people have to say about that lens:

http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/s...&cat=27&page=2

S4toSTI · 08-09-2007, 04:17 PM

Shooting cars wide..

Vs.

Shooting cars long...

Ideal in my opinion you want a long lens that is about a 80-200 and a 12-24 or similar for cars. They both give a certain look. 60mm even wide open isn't gonna give you a shallow enough dof.

SoStock92 · 08-09-2007, 06:59 PM

if you want depth to an image, you will only get that with a long lens. Notice that most 50, 75, 100, 120 mm fixed (prime) lenses are referred to as portrait lenses? The focal depth adds a great effect to any photo just so long as the subject fits in the view finder. I have been known to stand about 80' away from a subject just so i can use my 70-200mm L lens @ 200mm.

The other thing you may notice, is that prime lenses are faster - depending on which models you're looking at. I have a 50mm F/1.4 and a 75 F/1.8. Not that you will shoot that wide much, but when you do a low light shot with long exposure the effect can be quite impressive.

Omar_MSP · 08-09-2007, 11:35 PM

yea i'm going to get the 10-22 mm. i don't mind the wide angle. especially if i capture a landscape and/or a car.

the macro is something for later. i'll get it next year probably.

Thx for your inputs!

jspek · 08-10-2007, 12:42 AM

uber wide angle ftw! thats gonna be my next lens. more useful for car photography. the 17-85 is just a waste of money. its only a lil bit more zoom than your kit lense can go. the 10-22 is ftw.

i like rice · 08-10-2007, 07:30 AM

One of each. The 10 22 is good for car shows, especially indoor events when you're using a tripod. A telephoto lens is good for compression when you want to focus on the car and not on the background. You can get the 85 1.8 for about $300 used. It also serves as a decent beginner portrait lens.

Everyone's style is different. I prefer the compression-style for automotive shots. If I have control over the location, lighting, and vehicle position, 90% of the shots are with the telephoto.

SoStock92 · 08-11-2007, 10:55 AM

You can get whichever you prefer but the best car photos are ones taken with long focal depth in my opinion.

Photos taken @ 200mm F4.0 (L) you would think it's about 50mm standing in front of the car, but the further the distance, the more depth. Just a FWIW.

Omar_MSP · 08-11-2007, 02:29 PM

thats a whole lot of post processing to get that kind of an image though. i gotta keep messing around with my settings to see if i can take a picture with little to no photo processing.

SoStock92 · 08-11-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omar_MSP

thats a whole lot of post processing to get that kind of an image though. i gotta keep messing around with my settings to see if i can take a picture with little to no photo processing.

Its not much processing at all - RAW from the camera duplicate layer and overlay.

Here is a picture with just "levels" adjusted:

No real editting other than level adjust.

S4toSTI · 08-11-2007, 04:23 PM

The m3 and the turbo pic give me a headache.

Omar_MSP · 08-11-2007, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoStock92

Its not much processing at all - RAW from the camera duplicate layer and overlay.

Here is a picture with just "levels" adjusted:

No real editting other than level adjust.

alright, but i have photoshop CS and i downloaded a RAW viewer for it. i added the plugin and i still can't show a RAW file into photoshop...

i dunno but since i can't view RAW files on photoshop i don't even try to take them.

S4toSTI · 08-11-2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omar_MSP

alright, but i have photoshop CS and i downloaded a RAW viewer for it. i added the plugin and i still can't show a RAW file into photoshop...

i dunno but since i can't view RAW files on photoshop i don't even try to take them.

You need cs2 probably.

grimm · 08-12-2007, 01:23 AM

soft focus

Omar_MSP · 08-12-2007, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S4toSTI

You need cs2 probably.

what do you think if i shoot in RAW, then convert it to JPG after i upload it to my computer and then use photoshop to mess with the levels? u think that might work?

jspek · 08-12-2007, 02:12 AM

its not a soft focus. its an overlayed layer with a gaussian blur. simple stuff really. you use it if you want a dreamy look to a photo. i like it. not for everyday shooting/editing tho.

i like rice · 08-12-2007, 11:32 AM

Leave the gaussian blur for wedding photos, imo.

SoStock92 · 08-13-2007, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i like rice

Leave the gaussian blur for wedding photos, imo.

Be sure to let the magazine that purchased the photos know.

08-09-2007, 02:25 AM	#1
Omar_MSP Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ionno Member #2201 My Ride: MSP iTrader: (0)	3 Choices In Lens Well i'm either getting one of the three that i selected. 60 mm 10-22 mm 17-85 mm Im aiming for the best one to shoot for cars. the 60 mm is a macro lens, but i don't know how much macro is has. like i know i can get a really close up at a bug, but what about if i just want a picture of the entire car and the background being blurry? i want to do that. the 10-22 mm is a ultra wide lens. basically skews a picture. 17-85... honestly i see no difference besides the zoom compared to a 18-55 mm... Im trying to be ready and equiped with the right gear to make sure i get the best out of a picture. i was thinking about the 10-22 because since i can get some nice shots at a wide angle along with the landscape. so a car parked next to a nice building will comeout pretty good. I was really thinking about the 60mm unless i can see better pics of the macro because i would like whole shots of cars just the background blurred... u know? __________________ Canon Rebel XTI I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges.

08-09-2007, 09:25 AM	#2
howielong Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Langhorne, PA Member #586 My Ride: Grandpa Cruiser iTrader: (0)	Personally I'd stay away from a Prime lens. Or the 60mm Macro lens. Its harder to get the whole car into the frame with a Prime lens. I use my 50mm some times but in certain instances if you don't have enough room you'll not be able to get the whole car in the shot. The 10-22 from Canon doesn't seem like a fisheye lens so there isn't going to be much distortation. The 17-85 seems to be a pretty much a general walk around lens. That you'd use every day. But seeing how you already have a camera and all I'm probably correct in saying that you already do have a general walk about lens like the 17-85. I'd go to a camera store if you can and try out both lenses. Seeing which one you think will be the best for you. But I'm going to say the 10-22 if you can swing it. __________________ I drive the grand kids around *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

08-09-2007, 02:41 PM	#3
97TurboDSM TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Sep 2005 Member #849 My Ride: '03 IY 20th GTI iTrader: (3)	i'd say go with the wide angle lens also. like stated above, im pretty sure that lens for canon isnt a fisheye so you wont get too much distortion from it. play with some at a camera store and see how the pictures come out. __________________ FOR SALE! Canon 5D\|17-40L\|85mm f/1.8\|Sigmalux\|580ex

08-09-2007, 11:35 PM	#7
Omar_MSP Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ionno Member #2201 My Ride: MSP iTrader: (0)	yea i'm going to get the 10-22 mm. i don't mind the wide angle. especially if i capture a landscape and/or a car. the macro is something for later. i'll get it next year probably. Thx for your inputs! __________________ Canon Rebel XTI I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges.

08-10-2007, 07:30 AM	#9
i like rice Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2007 Member #3858 iTrader: (0)	One of each. The 10 22 is good for car shows, especially indoor events when you're using a tripod. A telephoto lens is good for compression when you want to focus on the car and not on the background. You can get the 85 1.8 for about $300 used. It also serves as a decent beginner portrait lens. Everyone's style is different. I prefer the compression-style for automotive shots. If I have control over the location, lighting, and vehicle position, 90% of the shots are with the telephoto. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

08-09-2007, 03:51 PM	#4
BlackTypeR Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2005 Member #459 iTrader: (0)	I would go with the 10-22 as well. Here's a link on what other people have to say about that lens: http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/s...&cat=27&page=2

08-09-2007, 06:59 PM	#6
SoStock92 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2006 Member #1721 My Ride: 92 BMW 525, 95 BMW 525, 87 BMW 325, 95 BMW 530 iTrader: (0)	if you want depth to an image, you will only get that with a long lens. Notice that most 50, 75, 100, 120 mm fixed (prime) lenses are referred to as portrait lenses? The focal depth adds a great effect to any photo just so long as the subject fits in the view finder. I have been known to stand about 80' away from a subject just so i can use my 70-200mm L lens @ 200mm. The other thing you may notice, is that prime lenses are faster - depending on which models you're looking at. I have a 50mm F/1.4 and a 75 F/1.8. Not that you will shoot that wide much, but when you do a low light shot with long exposure the effect can be quite impressive.

08-11-2007, 10:55 AM	#10
SoStock92 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2006 Member #1721 My Ride: 92 BMW 525, 95 BMW 525, 87 BMW 325, 95 BMW 530 iTrader: (0)	You can get whichever you prefer but the best car photos are ones taken with long focal depth in my opinion. Photos taken @ 200mm F4.0 (L) you would think it's about 50mm standing in front of the car, but the further the distance, the more depth. Just a FWIW.

08-11-2007, 02:29 PM	#11
Omar_MSP Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ionno Member #2201 My Ride: MSP iTrader: (0)	thats a whole lot of post processing to get that kind of an image though. i gotta keep messing around with my settings to see if i can take a picture with little to no photo processing. __________________ Canon Rebel XTI I wonder how much deeper the ocean would be without sponges.

08-12-2007, 01:23 AM	#16
grimm Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Member #3058 iTrader: (2)	soft focus

08-12-2007, 11:32 AM	#19
i like rice Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2007 Member #3858 iTrader: (0)	Leave the gaussian blur for wedding photos, imo. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

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