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skybound74 · 11-19-2006, 12:58 PM

I have no power. the motor is completly together. the ignition timing is correct the computer has no CEL's and it does move it just won't go. the best i can manage is about 20 miles an hour and thats while boosting at 10 lbs. i haven't got the slightest idea whats wrong with this thing. any DSM people willing to help me figure it out.

EvlEgl · 11-19-2006, 01:15 PM

Could be a Trans/Clutch Issue.

Did you do a boost leak test...Even if it isnt the reason still good to do one anyway. If I was closer I would check it out...but Mine is down as well lol.

Does the clutch engage smooth? and how's the idle?

skybound74 · 11-19-2006, 01:24 PM

no clutch its auto. the one thing i forgot to ask is if the comp will throw a CEL when the trans is in limp mode? and no i have not done a boost leak test i think i'll get to that now. all i need is a compressor to fill my tank

EvlEgl · 11-19-2006, 01:25 PM

Does it Feel like it wants to move just wont? I.e. the tranny shifts fine and it feels motor related...or does the motor run fine but the trans feels like it's the issue.

skybound74 · 11-19-2006, 01:31 PM

to be honest it feels like both. it feels like the motor is way too retarded on timing but it also feels like i'm suck in limp mode. i had this same problem a long time ago when i first put the head back on and it was timing now i don't know. i've checked everything i can think of internal timing is spot on. ignition timing is good. no CEL's to check, fuel pressure is good. then again. the chilton says to run 44lbs on this motor but i've always heard a lower number. i think it was 34. got me anyone know if limp mode will thorw a CEL?

EvlEgl · 11-19-2006, 01:33 PM

Is it a 1g or a 2g?

www.vfaq.com

I run 38psi for fuel pressure...But remember to take the vacumn line off when you check/adjust it.

EvlEgl · 11-19-2006, 01:35 PM

ulled from Chilton's, all pressure figures are with the vacum line removed:

1G n/t - 47-50 psi
1G turbo m/t -36 - 38 psi
1G turbo a/t - 41 - 46 psi
2G turbo - 42 - 45 psi
2G spyder - 47 - 50 psi

With vacum line attached:

1G n/t - 38 psi
1G turbo m/t 27 psi
1G turbo a/t 33 psi
2G turbo - 33 psi
2G spyder - 38 psi

skybound74 · 11-19-2006, 01:39 PM

its a 1g awd at with the alto end clutches and the trans lab shift kit.

skybound74 · 11-19-2006, 03:43 PM

fixed. i don't know why but for some reason i thought all i had top do was pull the cap off the timing pigtail. I forgot all about having to ground it out as well. figures. anyway i thank everyone who offered their help with this. seeya on the road soon.

11-19-2006, 12:58 PM	#1
skybound74 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Member #729 My Ride: 1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD iTrader: (0)	in need of some help I have no power. the motor is completly together. the ignition timing is correct the computer has no CEL's and it does move it just won't go. the best i can manage is about 20 miles an hour and thats while boosting at 10 lbs. i haven't got the slightest idea whats wrong with this thing. any DSM people willing to help me figure it out.

11-19-2006, 01:15 PM	#2
EvlEgl Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Member #1412 My Ride: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe iTrader: (0)	Could be a Trans/Clutch Issue. Did you do a boost leak test...Even if it isnt the reason still good to do one anyway. If I was closer I would check it out...but Mine is down as well lol. Does the clutch engage smooth? and how's the idle? __________________ 2010 Tsukuba Red Genesis Coupe 3.8 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R [FRSH]

11-19-2006, 01:25 PM	#4
EvlEgl Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Member #1412 My Ride: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe iTrader: (0)	Does it Feel like it wants to move just wont? I.e. the tranny shifts fine and it feels motor related...or does the motor run fine but the trans feels like it's the issue. __________________ 2010 Tsukuba Red Genesis Coupe 3.8 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R [FRSH]

11-19-2006, 01:33 PM	#6
EvlEgl Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Member #1412 My Ride: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe iTrader: (0)	Is it a 1g or a 2g? www.vfaq.com I run 38psi for fuel pressure...But remember to take the vacumn line off when you check/adjust it. __________________ 2010 Tsukuba Red Genesis Coupe 3.8 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R [FRSH]

11-19-2006, 01:35 PM	#7
EvlEgl Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Member #1412 My Ride: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe iTrader: (0)	ulled from Chilton's, all pressure figures are with the vacum line removed: 1G n/t - 47-50 psi 1G turbo m/t -36 - 38 psi 1G turbo a/t - 41 - 46 psi 2G turbo - 42 - 45 psi 2G spyder - 47 - 50 psi With vacum line attached: 1G n/t - 38 psi 1G turbo m/t 27 psi 1G turbo a/t 33 psi 2G turbo - 33 psi 2G spyder - 38 psi __________________ 2010 Tsukuba Red Genesis Coupe 3.8 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R [FRSH]

11-19-2006, 01:24 PM	#3
skybound74 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Member #729 My Ride: 1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD iTrader: (0)	no clutch its auto. the one thing i forgot to ask is if the comp will throw a CEL when the trans is in limp mode? and no i have not done a boost leak test i think i'll get to that now. all i need is a compressor to fill my tank

11-19-2006, 01:31 PM	#5
skybound74 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Member #729 My Ride: 1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD iTrader: (0)	to be honest it feels like both. it feels like the motor is way too retarded on timing but it also feels like i'm suck in limp mode. i had this same problem a long time ago when i first put the head back on and it was timing now i don't know. i've checked everything i can think of internal timing is spot on. ignition timing is good. no CEL's to check, fuel pressure is good. then again. the chilton says to run 44lbs on this motor but i've always heard a lower number. i think it was 34. got me anyone know if limp mode will thorw a CEL?

11-19-2006, 01:39 PM	#8
skybound74 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Member #729 My Ride: 1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD iTrader: (0)	its a 1g awd at with the alto end clutches and the trans lab shift kit.

11-19-2006, 03:43 PM	#9
skybound74 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Member #729 My Ride: 1991 Eagle Talon TSi AWD iTrader: (0)	fixed. i don't know why but for some reason i thought all i had top do was pull the cap off the timing pigtail. I forgot all about having to ground it out as well. figures. anyway i thank everyone who offered their help with this. seeya on the road soon.