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MEATNCHEESE · 02-29-2012, 02:19 PM

I am ready for the next upgrades on my wrx, so far all I have done is the cobb intake and the cobb AP. I dont know what to do about a down pipe or CBE.
I like the invidia cattless downpipe but I am worried about boost creep.
the Catted down pipes are super expensive. From what I have read you can get away with the stage 2 tune on the cobb ap with only a down pipe on the hatch because it flows better than the sedan.
need some input.
is there anything else i can do in the same range as the downpipe to get the same power?

hopefully going to cecil county drag strip on friday night to feel the car out and hopefully see where i am at before i do anything else. ill post the times some time next week. this will be my first time on a track in any car, all i care about is beating my buddies ws6 trans am. i cant expect to much though

PAFirefighter11 · 02-29-2012, 02:21 PM

I know what you can expect, losing to me on Friday. Aside from that, I have no advice for you lol.

Dego · 02-29-2012, 05:04 PM

The only way you will beat J's WRX is if he gives you a 1310 foot head start. hahaha

ketchup! · 02-29-2012, 05:24 PM

upgrade your suspension

PAFirefighter11 · 02-29-2012, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dego

The only way you will beat J's WRX is if he gives you a 1310 foot head start. hahaha

He's a ****ty driver. I will finally have traction. As long as my 10 bolt doesn't explode on the line, he's a goner.

SovXietday · 03-01-2012, 01:00 AM

^ Which it will, because the 10 bolts were made of hopes, dreams and apparently fine china.

**Got Insulin?** · 03-01-2012, 01:38 AM

Welcome to the site. You may notice that we have sub-sections for things like this, and the Subaru sub-section would have been a more appropriate place to post so I moved it over there. Also, try searching. TST is overrun with Subies.

012.5RS · 03-01-2012, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ketchup!

upgrade your suspension

^^^^

Erik@R/TTuning · 03-01-2012, 03:49 PM

If you are open to some hot side port work you can get pretty reliable boost control even on a car running a catless dp.

ChefRacer · 03-18-2012, 10:18 PM

I wouldn't worry about boost creep on a basically stock car. Get yourself that catless invidia dp, get rid of the silly AP and get an open source tune. The software is free as long as you have a reliable laptop all you'll need is a tactrix cable. You won't need a catback for a long time, the stock catback will be perfectly fine for alot more power than your stock turbo can really make. After the DP and a "stage II" tune, I would just say go for suspension mods. Be mindful that if you do decide to get an intake, you will need a tune immediately after. An intake might make 10-15 hp max at on a stock setup b/c the factory airbox is fine for up to around 350-400 whp, which is alot more than you are going to make with a stock turbo. Your intercooler will be the next restriction after you upgrade the dp, you have options for this. Some guys go with a bigger/stronger TMIC, I'm not a fan of TMICs so I'm shopping for an FMIC right now myself. Good luck, let me know if you have any questions.

Jah1mon · 04-09-2012, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ketchup!

upgrade your suspension

I agree with this suggestion. You would see night and day difference upgrading the suspension or even better tires.

Ying · 04-11-2012, 03:13 PM

Have you looked into the CNT (previously ERZ) catted DP? There doesn't seem to be anyone complaining about it and the workmanship looks good. $350 I think for the catted version which I think is pretty reasonable.

MEATNCHEESE · 04-12-2012, 10:29 AM

I fiinally got a cattless downpipe, got the fast motorsports. super cheap and bolted right up. no issues at all, been running it for about 2 weeks and no issues at all. sounds great and with the stage 2 map it runs great.

i think the next thing will be the suspension. I talked to eibach the other day and he recommended the pro kit with springs and front and rear swaybars.
he said if im not tracking the car all the time its not worth the extra money for coil overs..... any input on that?

PunkboySL2 · 04-12-2012, 11:12 AM

A good set of coilovers for your car will definitely out perform drop springs, but that's something you don't want to cheap out on if you want good performance. If aren't willing to drop over $1k on coils then just get drop springs.

08SubieWrx · 04-14-2012, 12:14 PM

BC BR Coils are a really nice option. Coils will be one of the first things I do when I get another Wrx early next year!

Not sure if you are on 3gwrx.com or not but it's an excellent site for 3g specific information!

3gWrx's on coils are just so damn sexy...

Smittysmop · 04-15-2012, 09:40 AM

i skipped springs and got a new turbo instead

Ying · 05-02-2012, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MEATNCHEESE

i think the next thing will be the suspension. I talked to eibach the other day and he recommended the pro kit with springs and front and rear swaybars.
he said if im not tracking the car all the time its not worth the extra money for coil overs..... any input on that?

I know I'm like a month late to respond, but the first question is what you want out of your suspension. Are you looking for performance, looks, both?

If you haven't done the suspension upgrade yet, look at the Koni inserts. A lot of people seem to be happy with them and they're adjustable. Another option is the GTWorx/Bilstein set up. I've got the bilsteins with RCE Blacks and am more than happy with the performance. Also added Whiteline 24F/22R sways and KB endlinks at the same time so that probably has something to do with it as well.

If you're DDing the car it's up to you to decide how much jarring you're going to be able to handle in-town and on the highway. You're going to pay an arm and a leg for good coilovers that ride well, so maybe one of the two other options I mentioned would work. I have no experience with Eibach so I can't speak to that.

012.5RS · 05-13-2012, 04:40 PM

meat, here are some good articles to read:
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/dialed/
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/g-whiz/
http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/roll-it/

02-29-2012, 02:19 PM	#1
MEATNCHEESE Noob-Jersey Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: newark DE Member #20225 My Ride: 2011 WRX hatch iTrader: (0)	2011 WRX hatch, need some ideas I am ready for the next upgrades on my wrx, so far all I have done is the cobb intake and the cobb AP. I dont know what to do about a down pipe or CBE. I like the invidia cattless downpipe but I am worried about boost creep. the Catted down pipes are super expensive. From what I have read you can get away with the stage 2 tune on the cobb ap with only a down pipe on the hatch because it flows better than the sedan. need some input. is there anything else i can do in the same range as the downpipe to get the same power? hopefully going to cecil county drag strip on friday night to feel the car out and hopefully see where i am at before i do anything else. ill post the times some time next week. this will be my first time on a track in any car, all i care about is beating my buddies ws6 trans am. i cant expect to much though

02-29-2012, 05:04 PM	#3
Dego Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: dub-c Member #6498 My Ride: S2K AND Buick GN iTrader: (0)	The only way you will beat J's WRX is if he gives you a 1310 foot head start. hahaha __________________ 2005 EBP Evo VIII:Tuned by Chad Block CBRD SOLD 2006 Torrid red GTO, 2004 s2k, 87 turbo buick

02-29-2012, 05:24 PM	#4
ketchup! Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Honda Member #656 My Ride: Speedooo's Sister iTrader: (0)	upgrade your suspension __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.*

03-01-2012, 01:38 AM	#7
Got Insulin? Hard Snarker Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Philly Member #7591 My Ride: 01 Audi TT 225, GVR-4 #72/1000, 91 TSi AWD iTrader: (16)	Welcome to the site. You may notice that we have sub-sections for things like this, and the Subaru sub-section would have been a more appropriate place to post so I moved it over there. Also, try searching. TST is overrun with Subies. __________________ -Taylor DenOfDebauchery

04-11-2012, 03:13 PM	#12
Ying Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Apr 2011 Member #20558 My Ride: 2011 Subaru WRX Stage I iTrader: (0)	Have you looked into the CNT (previously ERZ) catted DP? There doesn't seem to be anyone complaining about it and the workmanship looks good. $350 I think for the catted version which I think is pretty reasonable. __________________ 2004 Subaru WRX: Cobb Stage II: Sold 2004 Subaru STi: Cobb Stage II: Sold 2011 Subaru WRX: Torqued Performance Stage I

03-01-2012, 03:49 PM	#9
Erik@R/TTuning Former Vendor Join Date: Aug 2010 Member #17281 My Ride: 2000 MR2 Spyder iTrader: (1)	If you are open to some hot side port work you can get pretty reliable boost control even on a car running a catless dp.

03-18-2012, 10:18 PM	#10
ChefRacer Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Philadelphia Member #21969 My Ride: 05 Legacy GT Limited Wagon 5MT iTrader: (0)	I wouldn't worry about boost creep on a basically stock car. Get yourself that catless invidia dp, get rid of the silly AP and get an open source tune. The software is free as long as you have a reliable laptop all you'll need is a tactrix cable. You won't need a catback for a long time, the stock catback will be perfectly fine for alot more power than your stock turbo can really make. After the DP and a "stage II" tune, I would just say go for suspension mods. Be mindful that if you do decide to get an intake, you will need a tune immediately after. An intake might make 10-15 hp max at on a stock setup b/c the factory airbox is fine for up to around 350-400 whp, which is alot more than you are going to make with a stock turbo. Your intercooler will be the next restriction after you upgrade the dp, you have options for this. Some guys go with a bigger/stronger TMIC, I'm not a fan of TMICs so I'm shopping for an FMIC right now myself. Good luck, let me know if you have any questions.

04-12-2012, 10:29 AM	#13
MEATNCHEESE Noob-Jersey Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: newark DE Member #20225 My Ride: 2011 WRX hatch iTrader: (0)	I fiinally got a cattless downpipe, got the fast motorsports. super cheap and bolted right up. no issues at all, been running it for about 2 weeks and no issues at all. sounds great and with the stage 2 map it runs great. i think the next thing will be the suspension. I talked to eibach the other day and he recommended the pro kit with springs and front and rear swaybars. he said if im not tracking the car all the time its not worth the extra money for coil overs..... any input on that?

04-12-2012, 11:12 AM	#14
PunkboySL2 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pennsburg, PA Member #7050 My Ride: Saturns> 94' SW2, 94' SC2 iTrader: (1)	A good set of coilovers for your car will definitely out perform drop springs, but that's something you don't want to cheap out on if you want good performance. If aren't willing to drop over $1k on coils then just get drop springs. __________________ 98 Saturn SL2m - New DD: custom coilovers, slow 94 Saturn SW2a>m - DD: slammed and boosted. SOLD 94 Saturn SC2m -Sleeper: all out build under way 96 Saturn SL2m - built, then wrecked [RIP]

04-14-2012, 12:14 PM	#15
08SubieWrx Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2008 Member #7435 iTrader: (0)	BC BR Coils are a really nice option. Coils will be one of the first things I do when I get another Wrx early next year! Not sure if you are on 3gwrx.com or not but it's an excellent site for 3g specific information! 3gWrx's on coils are just so damn sexy... __________________ 91 Miata - Turbo build 99.9% complete 08 Wrb Wrx - Sold ... To buy a house! MT.Net build thread ---> To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by 08SubieWrx; 04-14-2012 at 12:18 PM.

04-15-2012, 09:40 AM	#16
Smittysmop Noob-Jersey Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Pottstown...Kinda Member #22973 My Ride: 2009 WRX iTrader: (0)	i skipped springs and got a new turbo instead __________________ 09 WRX AVO320, AVO TMIC, Cobb Accessport 2, Turboback, Cobb BOV, Intake, fuel etc... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

05-13-2012, 04:40 PM	#18
012.5RS Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bucks County Member #1071 My Ride: 2001 Stage 4 2.0RS---RIP, 2002 WRX Wagon, 1995 Impreza L iTrader: (1)	meat, here are some good articles to read: http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/dialed/ http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/g-whiz/ http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/roll-it/ __________________ Power is nothing without control

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