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**auk113** · 06-20-2011, 01:46 PM

looking for a place to refill my AC with R12... need a mechanic that has the proper stuff.

**TROLL** · 06-20-2011, 02:15 PM

What car is this for? I thought my Supra took R12 at first but it ended up using R134a...

grimm · 06-20-2011, 02:25 PM

you can get a conversion kit to r134a for about $50 at most autoparts stores.
R12 is expensive, like $40-$60 a lbs if/when you find someone that still has it.

i need to do the conversion on my jeep

thefro526 · 06-20-2011, 03:09 PM

If memory serves me correctly, it's illegal to refill or service R12 AC systems but I'm not entirely sure - or maybe it's just illegal for sale.

That being said, I'm pretty sure there is a refrigerant that's compatible with R12 systems, something like R409xx - I think.

Interestingly enough I have a propane tank sized bottle of R12 sitting in my Garage but don't have the fittings for it. :/

SpendOne · 06-20-2011, 05:49 PM

If I were you id replace the a/c components and refill with 134a. Its just that much easier. Freon is changing over to some synthetic stuff on newer cars. 134a is starting to increase big time though.

Foolinaround · 06-20-2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpendOne

If I were you id replace the a/c components and refill with 134a. Its just that much easier. Freon is changing over to some synthetic stuff on newer cars. 134a is starting to increase big time though.

That.

Buy the conversion kit its like 10 bucks,put a new drier and expansion valve in and recharge.

Bdub215 · 06-20-2011, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefro526

If memory serves me correctly, it's illegal to refill or service R12 AC systems but I'm not entirely sure - or maybe it's just illegal for sale.

That being said, I'm pretty sure there is a refrigerant that's compatible with R12 systems, something like R409xx - I think.

Interestingly enough I have a propane tank sized bottle of R12 sitting in my Garage but don't have the fittings for it. :/

Illegal to vent to the atmosphere. Not illegal to buy or service. You need the EPA 609 license to legally buy R-12.

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zmainiac · 06-20-2011, 09:51 PM

Look up freeze 12. Works really well. Might have to order it online

RedBowTies88 · 06-20-2011, 11:32 PM

R12 is 10x better then 134a. Well worth to continue using if you can get a shop to do the refil

grimm · 07-21-2011, 10:32 AM

from my reading you need a license to buy Freeze-12 (could be wrong) I've been looking into eviro-safe's R-134a R12 Sub Alternate A/C Recharge Kit. It says it's compatible, and from the people that have used it they say it works well. There is some concern about it's safety, being it's a hydrocarbonate (i think)

r-12 is still around and is better than r-134a, but it's rare that a shop will still do the re-charge due to the EPA and penalties.

I'm thinking of going the enviro-safe route. $35 for a full kit including fittings, gauges, and a leak stopper.

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RedBowTies88 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cape May County Member #16880 My Ride: car? iTrader: (0)	R12 is 10x better then 134a. Well worth to continue using if you can get a shop to do the refil __________________ Beech - Thats my real name ;) Nobody On This Forum Cares About Real Performance ^If you disagree prove me wrong To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-21-2011, 10:32 AM	#10
grimm Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Member #3058 iTrader: (2)	from my reading you need a license to buy Freeze-12 (could be wrong) I've been looking into eviro-safe's R-134a R12 Sub Alternate A/C Recharge Kit. It says it's compatible, and from the people that have used it they say it works well. There is some concern about it's safety, being it's a hydrocarbonate (i think) r-12 is still around and is better than r-134a, but it's rare that a shop will still do the re-charge due to the EPA and penalties. I'm thinking of going the enviro-safe route. $35 for a full kit including fittings, gauges, and a leak stopper. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-20-2011, 09:51 PM	#8
zmainiac Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: philly Member #13881 My Ride: 1988 nissan 300zx turbo, 1984 300zx Turbo, 2000 bmw 323ci iTrader: (0)	Look up freeze 12. Works really well. Might have to order it online

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