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Originally Posted by ITSTOCK
Luckily the majority of Marines aren't like him. For what it's worth, I shoot MUCH better then my two marine friends, with absolutely zero formal training.  He's proud of what he has done, and I'm proud of him for serving. But I do agree by stating that "civilians should just stay out of the way" is kind of a stupid ASSUMPTION to make (saying they wouldn't be able to help).
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Who said civilians wouldn't be valuable? Who said that thier skills wouldn't be used?
Should 90% of them stay out of the way? Not only yeah, but f uck yeah.
Listen let's call a spade a spade here. What we're talking about isn't freak'n Red Dawn. You guys all seem to think this **** is paintball. It's not. You mess up, you're dead. Game over.
Look at Black Hawk Down in Mogadishu. Look at all the civilians that were trying to fight there with no formal experience.
The US lost what? 19 men? They sustained thier position with little support and bare essentails taken into combat for over 18 hours.
The Somalis lost OVER 1,000. You don't think the Somalis had weapons familiarization/experience? They hunt with AK-47's. They had technicals with .50 cals. But they're unorganized and too proud to act as a team.
That is what I'm talking about. Anything unorganized gets crushed. So yeah, go ahead with your drinking buddy and your .22 and pit yourself up against a well trained and sustained fighting force and see how long you last. I'm glad all the ego's here are more important then use'n the brain God gave you.