I'm Jose and I say f...... Civic's "hondas" are some 90's ****, all these kids think vtec makes them fast,it's not there fault thats all they know. It takes time to gain the knowledge guys and when we all go to car meets we should acknowledge that since there driving Hondas, that there at the beginner stages of the car fever, lmao. I doubt you will see a 35 year old man driving one of those thing unless it's making serious power.
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