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Originally Posted by importpower99
I'm lost, why are they being closed? Once you explained this I will make my decision on signing.
Your theory of pizza shops and other entities closing is a little farfetched.
And just and FYI…
You are talking about a fossil fuel that will eventually run out. So aren’t you just preventing the inevitable? If not, your next mission will be signing petitions for car manufactures to stop producing gas efficient and hybrid cars because the demand for this fossil fuel has severely decreased causing these refineries to shut down.
Just food for thought..
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They are being closed due to not being profitable. The Sunoco plants are up and running until but for sale until July of 2012. After that they idle the plants. The thought that is going on here is that the New York Harbor is being flooded with what is waste from Europe (refined gasoline). Europe relies on Diesel. Europe floods the US with this at a lower price than it can be produced here, they don't have to pay a tarriff as of right now. You throw a tarriff on it and make the northeastern plants profittable again then there's a reason for another company to buy the plants. As of now the only way anybody will buy any of the three plants being mentioned is for tank storage. Tank storage requires minimal employees down into the double digits.
How do you find my theory for the local buisnesses suffering far fetched? As i stated in a previous post, go talk to any of the shop owners local to a plant and see if what they have to say. When you own a shop that you are getting 20-30 multi person orders a day from a buisness, see how that shop will be affected. Then take the same shop and increase their property tax due top the big buisnesses shutting down and see what happens.
I hear ya on the fossil fuels running out eventually. Thats not the problem here though. I don't care if your for or against Dino oil. the fact is your looking at eliminating thousands of jobs. Not just gas station attendent type jobs either your talking 80K plus annual jobs. Think of how much tax money goes bye bye. I know I pay more in taxes now than most of my freinds take home. You don't want any more jobs eliminated in todays economy, but think of the impact when you take lets say an average of $10k a year on federal taxes multipled by a few thousand. Your talking in the 10s of millions of federal money going BYE BYE.
What this basically is when it comes down to it is to try to save ALOT of jobs.
Either way I understand that opinions come in all different shapes, sizes, colors etc.