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Old 10-13-2011, 11:01 AM   #8535
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Originally Posted by thefro526 View Post
DaBomb, Japan isn't digressing, they're continuing to move forward with more effecient designs.

The VQ series of engines is substantially more efficient NA than the VG was with a turbo.

Food for thought.
id hope so after 10+ years lol. everything is more effecient now, but you could make close to 500 on simple mods in the VG. making 500 in a VQ has to be way more expensive because of the n/a limitation. effeciency only goes so far as the cars displacement. i kinda compare it to honda motors. in the 90s they were ~180 stock in japan 10+ years later theyve made only ~40hp more. but that is not apropriated to effeciency (maybe a little bit) but theyve jumped .6 litres from a 1.8 standard to 2.4s now.

3.0 L (2960 cc) VG30DETT produces 300 hp F/I
3.5 L (3498 cc) VQ35DE produces 300hp N/A

displacement .5l ~ T22 turbos on stock boost levels

i would almost argue that japan is going N/A for fuel economy/$ savings, but for the most part needs bigger engines because of the demanded weight in cars, theres no 2,400 pound hondas anymore. They are almost taking after the muscle car ideal for their performance cars. Subaru gets bigger turbos every other year, just jumped to 2.5l standard, toyota doesnt even care about performance unless its their new miata, mazda went from 2.0 turbo (90s) to 2.3 bigger turbo, but the rx-8 is N/A with more displacement along with their full line up. nissan went away from FI (besides the skyline) but went to bigger displacement motors, and mitsubishi didnt follow suit with the evo they stayed 2.0 but just put in bigger turbos, they did (tried to) with the eclipse making it a v6 but that car blew.
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