Yeah Serpa's are definitely NOT for any type of concealment what so ever. I have tried and tried and tried with mine and it just won't happen. I really like the ADH because they ride nice and tight (with a good belt). With a jacket on you'd never know it was there. Same goes for a button up or polo (untucked). But since I primarily OC now a days it doesn't really bother me too much. The wait time sucks ass tho on ADH & Raven. My buddy found a good deal on a similar holster on eBay for $40 shipped and I also have a similar holster from Gun Dealers Online out in Lancaster that I picked up for $45+tax. If I stop being lazy today I'll snap some comparison pics of all the holsters so you can see for yourself. The nice thing about the place in Lancaster is not only will he make you a customized holster for whatever gun you want (if it's something odd he asks you leave it there for a day or two so he can make the molds), but you can pick it up usually within 1-2 weeks rather than 3-4 months like ADH & Raven. And they're like $10-20 cheaper than ADH depending on what you customize on it.
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