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Originally Posted by AutobahnRacer
Oh not I don't mean apply the 'what they don't know won't hurt em' to gun free zones or places where it is clearly not permitted, I purely mean in places where it does not say either way where they might say something just to be d****
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Well that's why I said concealed means concealed. If a business or person has not mentioned anything about guns on their property, then just keep it hidden and go about your business. That's what I mean by 'what they don't know won't hurt em'. There's no reason to make an issue about something which isn't yet an issue.
As for being on property which has been marked:
18 Pa.C.S. § 3503: Criminal trespass
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(b) Defiant trespasser.--
(1) A person commits an offense if, knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so, he enters or remains in any place as to which notice against trespass is given by:
(i) actual communication to the actor;
(ii) posting in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the attention of intruders;
(iii) fencing or other enclosure manifestly designed to exclude intruders;
(iv) notices posted in a manner prescribed by law or reasonably likely to come to the person's attention at each entrance of school grounds that visitors are prohibited without authorization from a designated school, center or program official; or
(v) an actual communication to the actor to leave school grounds as communicated by a school, center or program official, employee or agent or a law enforcement officer.
(2) Except as provided in paragraph (1)(v), an offense under this subsection constitutes a misdemeanor of the third degree if the offender defies an order to leave personally communicated to him by the owner of the premises or other authorized person. An offense under paragraph (1)(v) constitutes a misdemeanor of the first degree. Otherwise it is a summary offense.
So, basically, if you know you're not supposed to carry somewhere because an owner has put up a sign or has previously stated that they don't want you to carry on their property, then you are trespassing. However, you need to take it for what it's worth and make your own decision about carrying there. It's not
illegal to carry in a mall where they have a no weapons policy (as it is illegal to carry in a courthouse, school, post office, etc.), but it may be made into an issue if they find you carrying and decide to be pricks about it. Personally, I carry everywhere except the actual off limits places. Plain and simple. Concealed means concealed.