At this point the car scene has just gotten so absolutely horrible and disappointing (not even referring to the above Ivic) that it's made me pick up old/other hobbies to get away from it. I guess that's good though because I may actually get some more use out of the $10k+ in airsoft gear I have in my spare bedroom 
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8 reps for your driver mod muscles
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When something has foibles and won't handle perfectly, that gives it a particularly human quality as it makes mistakes. That's how we can build a relationship with a car that other people just won't get - Jeremy Clarkson
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