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Old 04-22-2010, 05:15 PM   #142
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Originally Posted by jpalamar View Post
I don't think too many criminals are buying guns legally to comit the crime. Common sense would say to get out somewhere else. So your statistic is very deceptive. If DC, Cali, and NY inacted lose gun laws I guarentee it wouldn't hep their crime rates.
and here we see the problem...

How can you possibly "guarantee" this, with absolutely ZERO evidence to even base your opinion on? So far you have been dead wrong on every assumption you've made here so far, yet you just barrel on ahead insisting you can "guarantee" your ridiculous predictions. Maybe eventually you'll get the hint, but somehow, I doubt it.

So, let's take a look at what ACTUALLY happened, in one of the scenarios you posed that you can "guarantee" the outcome of...

Washington DC's (who has one of the highest violent crime rates in the entire US) total ban on handguns and laws that basically made armed self-defense illegal, even in your own home, were overturned last year by the supreme court, being ruled unconstitutional. So, suddenly, a crime infested city loosens it's decades old gun laws literally overnight. Of course, you assured us that it wouldn't help their crime rate, so let's take a look at what actually happened:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...mber-since-64/

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With just two days left in the year, according to preliminary numbers from the police department, the District has had 138 homicides compared with 184 at the same time last year, setting up the city to record the lowest number of homicides since 1964, when 132 were reported killed. Metropolitan Police Department officials attribute the decline to a "perfect storm" of crime-fighting strategies, including a new culture of communication within the police department.

"The level of involvement far surpasses anything I've ever seen," said Metropolitan Police Commander Daniel Hickson, a more than 30-year veteran of the department and former homicide detective. "To imagine we're at 138 is unbelievable."

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The result this year has been a drop in violent crime and property crime. The sharpest drop was in homicides, at 25 percent, followed by a 16 percent decline in sexual assaults and a 10 percent decrease in car thefts.
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