[Meeshell]

lol Jon, i may have to you. i'm at work listening to a client bitch on the phone about something i'm just going to need to forward to a different department, trying to eat my lunch and type out an explanation on here. i understand what i mean and well... oh well!

And I know Ken, but a good portion of the recipes online from him (and other Food Network chefs) are pretty long. Mostly because they can't fit them into shows, i'm sure. Either way, i wasn't trying to debate Alton Brown. Dudes a good cook with a good message and good recipes. His French Onion Soup recipe, which is where this all started, has a lot of ingredients that I dont think are necessary.