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Old 10-25-2009, 10:37 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by turboman808 View Post
Until you drive the car I wouldn't comment on it.

Drove the Lamborghini glalardo and F360 with paddle shifts many years ago and have driven these cars a few times since. The Gallardo is a bit better but both shift very harsh. They are manual boxes that the electronics shift for you. It drops the clutch on the 360 like you are on the race track all the time. They are terrible IMO

Then a few years back I test drove an Audi TT with automatic paddle shift. I thought the car was pretty dam good. It shifted pretty fast.

Then this summer I drove the new Jaguar XKR and XFR at the race track. Both are flappy paddle automatics. These cars were perfect. Just amazing transmissions matted to a 500+ hp motor. You had a beast and oyu had a dialy driver in one car. All down to the best transmission I have ever seen.

I walked away that day this summer concluding that manual transmissions days are numbered. They are just that good.


I don't how this new Subaru is gonna be. I would say drive it first before you decide it's a bad idea.



I know alot of guys will say "Real men don't need autos or traction control". Well those guys probably haven't driven a 600 hp monster in the street and scared to have fun in it even for a moment because they know it can get away from you. Then you can only enjoy your car on the race track.

Until you have tried this stuff don't knock it.
Im not entirely against the sti with no clutch pedal, I knew it would happen sometime. But its the fact that they put in a conventional slushbox. not with the times.....not with their market competitors. They needed a twin clutch tranny like in the evo, or a CVT like in the ISF. conventional autos days are numbered far before the conventional manual's are. that is stone age technology. and from a marketing point of view is utterly retarded given that they are etering the market knowing they have an inferior product to their main competitor.

I know all the hubub about the early paddleshift ferraris and whatnot. they had their issues then. but that technology has been mastered, refined, and brought down market. theres no excuse for a performance car of any sort to have a convientional, wasteful and inefficient slushbox
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