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Originally Posted by Proven
Like I mentioned I respect what you do and also respect Police and fire big time. I don't mind paying a cent for the security knowing they will come to my aid. Now If I said I refused to pay taxes for such services (military, police, and fire) because I’m not paying a cent for someone else to have that protection. To me, I think I would look like an ass.
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I honestly don't need the police. I respect them and the job they do, however I can care for my own property and family. Quite frankly, if someone broke into my home, the whole incident would be over way before the cops showed up anyway.
You're trying to compare a product that is for sale (health care) versus civil order and criminal control. Apples and watermelons.
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Originally Posted by Proven
Having your house put out if it catches fire isn’t a RIGHT its a service (product if you will)!
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You're right and wrong. First of all, most of the fire departments in my area are volunteer. I understand that the equipment they use is funded by taxes and other means, however these guys don't get paid for the heroic work they do.
However don't think for one minute that if state and locally funded fire departments disappeared today, that there wouldn't be privately run companies showing up to provide that service tomorrow. If people wanted their house put out, they would pay for those services. Not to mention that putting out fires goes beyond protecting private property. Home owners pay taxes on that land and the structures on it, if they all burn down and nobody lives there, then the state and local governments lose money.
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Originally Posted by Proven
Having your mail delivered also is not a right.
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You're right, however, much like any other service in America, don't think that a private business wouldn't appear to take over the USPS's role. Besides, letters and card are slowly going the way of the dodo due to the internet. UPS, FedEx and DHL move packages just as well, if not better, than the USPS does.
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Originally Posted by Proven
having smooth roads to drive on isnt a right -
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Again, you're right. I wouldn't care if we moved along on dirt roads. I probably wouldn't be driving a low slung sports car though. Keep in mind that our roads are much more than just a means of transportation for private citizens though. They serve to transport goods as well, which benefits everyone, whether you drive or not.
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Originally Posted by Proven
I don't mind paying taxes for those services for everyone. They are put in place by government for our safety, protection, and convenience.. Health coverage is just going to be another ones of those things added to the list which protects our nations individual health.
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Yeah, government run. And how efficient are they in the grand scheme of things? Are you really going to try and use things like state run road crews and the USPS for examples of how well the government runs things?