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Originally Posted by ILLJIM69
Really? Because the last time I checked, it was a state and locally funded program. However, if people are on and off within a year, good because it was designed to only get people back on their feet after a layoff or something of the sort.
But I know you're wrong because I see with my own eyes people who stay on social welfare programs for a very long time. You must be confused when I say "welfare". I am talking about SSI, HEAP, food stamps, Section 8, things of this nature.....any program designed to subsidize an expense that everyone else has to work and pay for out of pocket. Hell, in the dump town I lived in prior to moving, the lady across the street didn't do ****. She had her apartment paid for, HEAP covered 75% of her utilities, food stamps........but somehow she had a fairly new car (it was a 2001ish Cavalier and a 70-71 Mustang that was kept in a garage), cable TV, internet, was always out at the bar but magically never at a job, unless you count smoking, drinking and getting stoned a job. Just ONE example, happens all over the country.
I am also sure that tons of people can tell you the usual horror stories of food shopping and having someone on food stamps in front of them buying junk food, soda, steak........things that we have to work for, they get for free...well, they get them on our dime anyway.
EDIT - I am sure you have some form of proof to reflect your stat that 75% of people in America are on any social welfare program no longer than a year (cumulatively).
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REQUIRMENTS FOR WELFARE BENIFITS/ASSISTANCE:
To be eligible for welfare in the United States, an applicant must be a United States citizen or lawfully admitted to the country for permanent residence. Some exceptions may apply to citizenship rules. When an individual applies for welfare, his or her citizenship status is reviewed, along with the status of each household member, before assistance is granted. Each state has its own residency requirements as well. For example, to be eligible in Pennsylvania, an individual must be living within the state and have the intention of remaining there.
A social security number is required for receiving welfare benefits. This is required not just of adults, but also of children in an applying household. If someone in an applying household doesn’t have a social security number, the person must apply for one, provide proof of applying for a number, and give the number to his or her caseworker once it is issued. The caseworker may also require a copy of the person’s social security card.
Often, adults must meet certain work requirements in order to be eligible for welfare. The requirements may vary depending on the program and the state in which the individual is seeking aid. Generally, recipients are expected to seek employment and/or training. Some states provide work training and employment search programs geared specifically towards welfare recipients.
In certain circumstances, a recipient may be exempt from work requirements. For example, an individual in a single-parent household, with a child under 12 months old, may be temporarily excused from work requirements. Temporarily or permanently disabled recipients, as well as those enrolled in substance abuse programs, may be excused from work requirements as well. Additionally, individuals otherwise eligible for aid, but attending college, may be eligible for a work exemption for as long as they are attending school in a program that meets welfare requirements.
Depending on the welfare program, there may be special requirements for single and separated parents, their dependent children, and child support. Typically, recipients are required to seek child support and cooperate fully with welfare’s child support and paternity requirements, including efforts to find an absent parent. Once child support is granted, welfare may intercept all or part of it to compensate for the fact that the individual is receiving assistance. Exemptions from child support cooperation are made for good cause, such as proven domestic violence situations"
Let me tell you a story about sterotypes. Look, most of the stories you hear are usually false and lack crediabilty. The days of welfare queens are over. When was the last time you were standing in line at the grocery store ready to pay for your generic affordable food, when your stuck behind a woman, heavly decked out in gold jewelry. She is paying for her USDA approved sirloin with food stamps, while her 5 kids are running around the checkout counter screaming and breaking s**t.....excatly.
They are required to work, and they are assigned a case worker who reviews there case periodically. The only time they are not required to work, is if they have a child under a certian age.
As far as your neighbor, I couldn't answer that for you. You are probably missing a key piece of evidence that you are purposely with-holding, or really.........just don't know the truth and your guessing. So unless you physically seen her state benefits letter, have proof that she didn't have a job, know that she purchased the car, then your statement is just an opinion, and means nothing.
So can you be wrong? sure! Could she have slipped through the cracks of the system? sure!
They are required to work, and they are assigned a case worker who reviews there case periodically. The only time they are not required to work, is if they have a child under a certian age.
Here is the benefits for welfare:
http://www.dpw.state.pa.us/ServicesP.../003676754.htm
And yes Clinton reformed health care, he switched it from dependence to second chance:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/22/op...22clinton.html
And if you were refering to Disabilty, then no that figure does not apply to that. I was talking welfare, Section 8, food stamps, TANF, WIC.