You are becoming my favorite person to multi-quote! The hits just keep on coming.....
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Fyi, i'm not a registered rep/dem either, and I also have worked very hard. I don't get what you are trying to insinuate when people say stuff like that. Are you assuming that you work/worked harder than me??
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He might have worked harder than you or he might have made better choices than you. There are a myriad of things that determine one's standing in life, so stop getting all defensive and acting like you're the hardest working man of all time. If you were and you made better decisions, you wouldn't be on a car forum complaining about how the government owes you stuff, how everyone should be forced to come out of their pockets to help others and how the government needs to "level the playing field".
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And yes, you are lucky and priviledged. YOu could have been born addicted to Heroin and Crack and been prostituted out as a 9-year old and led a life of crime.... its all relative buddy.
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And who made these choices? I certainly didn't sit next to some pregnant mother and smoke crack and blow it in her face for nine months. I never pimped out nine year old kids. So why should I pay for those choices someone else made?
My parents didn't do any of that crap either, how does this make anyone lucky? You act like people are genetically coded to be crackheads. Like it's something they have no say in. Rich kids were set up for success by their parents and crack babies were set up by their parents. Choices, we all have them.
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You think you had it worse than everyone else out there?? Its attitudes like this that make Republicans/Right Wingers so ignorant.
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WRONG! It's the attitude that America should collectively deal with choices made by individuals that is truly ignorant. How about this, how about everyone out there takes responsibility for choices in life that they made by their own accord and we all keep our hands out of each others wallets? Wanting to take care of yourself and your family isn't selfish or anything of the sort, it's called survival and it's an instinct. Just like in the wild, the animals who refuse to get up and hunt for their food can either die or scavenge what is left from those who do hunt. If I have a little extra money and want to give it to a charity, that is my choice, nobody should force me to.
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duh, if America was "everyone for themselves" we never would have been a country in the first place.
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Actually, no, go read a history book. Working together for the greater good of the community is just fine, but you can't sit there and compare small colonies and areas to what America is now. There are simply too many people for that mindset. What you want is called communism, look it up.
If everyone DOES look out for themselves, then nobody would have to look out for others. Big difference between helping your neighbor move furniture or helping someone change a tire versus me having money stolen from my family to give to those who don't work hard enough to get what they want.
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Its just the new generations that take everything for granted and have such a sense of individual entitlement.
Like being smart and educated means you should never have to suffer and that you should just be given a white-picket fence...
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I agree with you here! Americans do have a sense of entitlement. However this isn't a right wing ideal, far from it.
You see, what a lot of people did in the last 30 years or so was they graduated high school or college, got jobs and immediately bought homes, cars, TVs. This isn't hard to do when you have two people with decent jobs. But now here come the kids. So now you have one person not working, plus the added expense of children but with only one person working. People don't feel that they should have to give up their quality of life, so they don't cut corners, they don't sell the house and move into a smaller one, they don't sell their cars and buy one car. What they do is they complain about their costs "well if medical bills weren't so high" or "if my variable rate interest loan didn't go up" and when you get enough people complaining about something, and they happen to be voters, politicians will pander to their wants. If people could learn to prioritize their spending, learn to cut costs where they can and maybe, just maybe, live within their means, none of this wouldn't be an issue. Houses, cars, health insurance, flat screen TVs, internet access, steak dinners.........none of these things are rights, they are things you work for. Don't want to work for them? Fine! But don't come looking to me to get them for you.
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Its called having morals and values.
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Yeah, like work ethic and personal responsibility.
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We are all humans, and furthermore American citizens.
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Some more than others.
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We help each other out
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I don't mind helping people out here and there.
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we support each other
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NO! You support yourself and your family, that is YOUR job, not mine. If a guy wants to stay single his whole life, work, not have kids and spend all his money on a nice house with nice stuff in it and cars, that is his choice. He shouldn't have to help support kids or families he didn't want and had no part in creating.
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... christ, we volunteer to go to fight in wars in foreign countries under the guies of "protecting yours and my freedom".
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Nobody believes that we are in Iraq or Afghanistan to protect our freedoms, at least not directly.
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Firefighters run into burning buildings to save people.... yes, even poor, poverty-stricken drug addicts. Why? because no matter their lot in life, they are people too and deserve to be treated with respect and dignity.
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Well perhaps it could be that its their job? Not saying that there aren't volunteers out there who do it for more noble reasons than a paycheck, however that is a choice that they make and nobody should be forced to do it.
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There is no excuse for the wealthiest country in the world, with the BEST healthcare available, to have people dying prematurely because they cannot afford healthcare [insurance].
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People are born, people get sick, people die. It's the facts of life. We can't, and shouldn't, save everyone. If you want to, by all means, donate your pay to these people. I will be over here worrying about providing and saving my family first before I worry about everyone else.