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Old 06-30-2009, 11:24 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by bastid View Post
Turn around. By stopping at a checkpoint, you are in a way surrendering your 4th and 5th amendment rights by acknowledging your willingness to participate in a search and potentially incriminating yourself.

As a disclaimer to the rest of my post, I've never had a run-in with the law in any way, shape, or form (outside of infrequent traffic stops every few years). During which, I've been cooperative, polite, and not in the least bit resistant. I've never had a police officer just walk up and ask me to identify myself or ask me questions without basis, and I would be most of us never have. However, that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.



Agree.



Agree.



This may not be the case with the OP, but if a police officer hates someone who is minding their own business because they refuse to identify themselves or answer baseless questions because they've done nothing wrong, then I'd argue they are "one of the bad ones." Now, if the police officer can tell me why I'm being questioned, I have no problem with cooperating, and I do so in a very polite manner.



It's called the Constitution, and I would suggest you learn it if you honestly believe there is truth in this statement. You have a right to feel secure in your person from illegal search and seizure and also not to incriminate yourself. Smarter people than us have already determined this in case law.



You have it backwards. There is no reason for a police officer to ask you to identify yourself if you aren't doing anything wrong
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Terry v. Ohio, 392U.S. 1, 88 S. Ct. 1868, 21 L. Ed. 889 (1968)



If you are caught committing a crime or have information that would lead to the solving of one, Agree.



Strong Agree.



Agree.
ok...very well put but......

there's allways a reason for them to ask. what if they are lookin for a criminal in the area?? if you were the victim of that crime, i think you'd want that person caught wouldnt you? obviously thats not something that you'll run into every day but i have no reason to lie to the police or give them a hard time. they ask...ill tell. now if you're a shady ****er and you have every reason in the world not to tell them your name, i understand the reasoning. but by doin that, you're giving them more reasons to pick on you for not cooperating. its kind of a catch 22. i dunno...maybe i just perceive things a little differantly than others i guess.
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