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					Originally Posted by  motorvated
					 
				 
				Steve...how much have you taken your car to the road course? Or are you claiming that autocrossers push their cars harder based on what you've read/heard? 
			
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 how many people spin out at a road course?  or lose control? not nearly as many as autocross. its a mental thing, when there is a wall next to you, 99% of people won't push as hard as they would without it there.