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dragonfly2k3 12-18-2009 04:55 PM

KW V1 coilovers
 
So, Ive been looking to drop my car, but i dont want to deal with ****ty suspension characteristics. Now, I see the KW V1 can be had for an extremely reasonable price(800ish). This puts it on the same price bracket as things like Ksport, D2, DDM, and other china brands. Obviously getting a coilover from a top name company over a chinese company appeals to me, but how does it perform? I dont care about compression/rebound adjustability, and the car will be seeing 2-3 track days a year at best.

Honest_Bob 12-19-2009 06:21 PM

And you drive what?

P3tchSR 12-19-2009 10:32 PM

I never heard anything bad about them but cheeping out on coilovers always leads to blowing them out paying for new ones or getting them rebuilt, dealing with the hassel, when you could have just saved the extra 400 for ones known to be good.

dragonfly2k3 12-19-2009 10:44 PM

im certainly not worried about blowing them out, KW is an extremely respected name us suspension. my concern is about how they perform compared to V2 or V3 coilovers. obvi those units are way expensive compared to V1 though. theyre going on an E36 coupe.

XxIriponzeesxX 12-20-2009 03:02 AM

save up and get the better coils... you get what you pay for.

evomike 12-20-2009 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by XxIriponzeesxX (Post 1599352)
save up and get the better coils... you get what you pay for.

You clearly know nothing kw suspension systems are great, if your primaraly just goin for a drop and gonna be street driving the v1 will be a good choice for you.

dragonfly2k3 12-20-2009 05:54 AM

thanks mike! im not sure if people have never heard of kw? listen guys, IM NOT WORRIED ABOUT BUILD QUALITY im worried about performance versus their higher setups. KW is one of the biggest names in suspension, i dont think theyd put their name on anything not built to last. im worried about being too soft to drop, heat soaking on the occasional track day, or not having enough range of adjustment.

evomike 12-20-2009 06:05 AM

Honestly you really probably dot have the time or knowledge to benefit from an advanced suspension with tons of adjustment, the v1 would be fine for you just pick the spring rate yourself and you'll be fine.

dragonfly2k3 12-20-2009 11:14 AM

no offense taken, i know for a fact im not a good enough driver to need something like the v3 however, the only way they can be had that cheap is via outside sources. will i need kw to revalve if i decide to up rates?

evomike 12-20-2009 12:40 PM

I really don't know I would also considder ground control, they would have a whole system for your caramd you can call them and talk to them about spring rates and such. Everyone I know who has run gc's on e30's and 36's has loved them I would look into that as an option also it's pretty affordable.

dragonfly2k3 12-20-2009 01:17 PM

yeah, i looked into gc, it looks like the gc kits are a little over double to price but i get camber plates, rear upper mounts, and a single compression/rebound adjustment.

evomike 12-20-2009 01:30 PM

Yeah i had no idea the prices jumped like they did I looked, kw is a great suspension i'd call them and talk to someone about rates and valving or find out if someone does custom valving a vendor on the BMW forums or something.

DaveSTi 12-21-2009 12:44 AM

The V1 are made in Taiwan unlike the V2 and V3 models.

I think they're decent, but just because KW brands them, doesn't mean they're the bees knees. For example, the V3 has a cult following on the internet, but since the high speed portion of the valving is fixed, they're limited in adjustability for a dual purpose car.

Have you looked into the Eibach coils? The shock dynos on them are very good and they offer similar construction as the KW (stainless steel) but with Eibach SRS coil springs.

Basically, the V1 isn't anything to write home about, even with the KW logo on it.

dragonfly2k3 12-21-2009 01:42 AM

really? that i never knew. Im so used to kw not branding **** parts with their name. I have looked into the eibach coilovers, they seem to have all the right parts, but there doesnt seem to be alot of info on them?

DaveSTi 12-21-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonfly2k3 (Post 1599930)
really? that i never knew. Im so used to kw not branding **** parts with their name. I have looked into the eibach coilovers, they seem to have all the right parts, but there doesnt seem to be alot of info on them?

KW is a decent mid-level shock...it's not until you get into their more competition grade stuff where it becomes really good. The V3's are a decent budget coilover, but has a few downsides to it.... For example, its a twin tube damper with slower piston response, which is mistaken for good ride quality. You can't adjust the high speed portion of the valving so depending on spring rate, track, roads....you can have it setup perfectly until you get to the right bump or pylon.

Yeah, the Eibach stuff is new. The shock dynos are extremely good, think similar to a properly setup Koni shock. The travel is decent and the construction is similar to the KW, but probably more robust with the spring perches since KW uses one plastic ring with an easily strippable lock nut.

Plus, the price is outstanding.

dragonfly2k3 12-21-2009 11:50 PM

Yeah, I loved the specs on the eibach, there just seems to be no feedback on them yet. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the KWs, i picked em up for the lowest price online, by atleast 200-300 bucks, so if worst comes to worst il resell em and atleast break even.

DaveSTi 12-22-2009 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonfly2k3 (Post 1600558)
Yeah, I loved the specs on the eibach, there just seems to be no feedback on them yet. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the KWs, i picked em up for the lowest price online, by atleast 200-300 bucks, so if worst comes to worst il resell em and atleast break even.

Congrats on the purchase! Sounds like you got a good deal on them, let us know how you like them.:cool:

dragonfly2k3 12-23-2009 01:42 AM

will do. I may end up selling them in the future, but for right now, the price was PERFECT and they had what i was looking for in a coilover.

ImportDPS 01-11-2010 04:02 PM

KW makes one of the best suspension systems out. There quality and customer service is hands down the best out of all the suspension companies we deal with. I have V1/V2/V3 in stock for certain applications.

sinner 01-12-2010 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImportDPS (Post 1615561)
KW makes one of the best suspension systems out. There quality and customer service is hands down the best out of all the suspension companies we deal with. I have V1/V2/V3 in stock for certain applications.

I was looking at v2's and was swayed away due to their service. I heard from several people that their customer service was the worst. Specifically no support in the states and that repairs required sending over seas. Any truth to that?


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