ATTN: Mobil 1 syn users
 

Here is a list of an interesting oil test performed on Mobil 1 SuperSyn. The results are not good. A guy at work found this and turned me onto it. The additive packages in Mobil 1 are absolute crap compared to other oils. Redline 5w-30 has a very high rated additive package. This site can tell you anything you ever wanted to know about motor oils, etc. After seeing some of the videos of tests on this site, i doubt i will be using Mobil 1 SuperSyn ever again! Scary stuffs. http://bobistheoilguy.com/videos.html <----Video's and explenation of timkens tests.

Here is a link to a listing of testing results from many leading oils. http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/...;f=11;t=000310

Look at the Moly (explained here http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/moly.html) ratings of each oil. Moly is a good thing and the more the better.
Ex. Mobil 1 10w-30 = Moly rating of 92 (no results for 5w-30)
Royal Purple 5w-30 = Moly rating of 130
Redline 5w-30 = Moly rating of 679!

Anyhow, thought this would be a valueable tool for some people on here with oil questions, just some interesting stuff that was found by a coworker. Have fun with it, lots of good info. :thumbup:

Damn, i was gonna jump on you but then i began to read... the only flaw ive found thus far is that moly (read it if you care) is also the cause for "gunk" in engines due to the loss of its suspension... simply put. The moly breaks down and becomes worthless.

In their words:
Engineers and scientists have tried for years to use Moly in motor oils but they have been unsuccessful because they could not find a way to keep Moly in suspension. Once Moly was put into suspension it would gradually settle out. It was easy to see it come out of suspension because a black sludge would collect on the bottom of the oil containers. In engines it would settle to the bottom of the crankcase or clog oil pathways and filters.
Engineers have overcome these obstacles. They have developed a process that keeps Moly in suspension and isn't filtered out. Since that time the product has undergone extensive independent testing in labs and in the field for many years to insure that the product stands up to the rigorous needs of today's engines. With the plating action of Moly reducing friction which reduces heat, this helps keep rings free from carbon buildup, prevents blow-by, decreases emission, and extends oil life.


Still interesting as hell thanks for the post man i was just talking about this over at srtsyndicate.

Crazy. I use mobil 1 Synth. Is it safe to switch over to a different oil as long as its snyth such as redline?

I will always use mobil 1 syn. I know these tests might show it isn't that great but in both the manual for the m3 and the roadster it clearly says "only use bmw or mobil 1 syn. oil" Mobil must be doing something right for them to say that, or paying BMW a lot of $$$

I agree with you its the money or they have something up their sleeves....


If you read that site its kinda taken outta context, the oil that is. They warm it up in the engine then take it out while its warm and test it. Granted thats probably the best way i cant say its bad but the few times ive read about tests they pulled it right from the valve cover.(Meaning the site pulled the oil from the oil pan on these tests,... i think, at least thats what i got from it.) I dunno mobile 1 is pretty high quality, then again redline and purple royal have also been highly touted as "better" oils. I dunno ill give them a try eventually.


And to wrx27
No changing the oil you use is not harmful to your engine. You could use cheap oil, you would just have to change it Religiously at 3,000 miles where as synthetic can be neglected for a lil while.

Id give it a try not like you have much to loose, well an engine but thats the worst case scenario. Put enough oil in her and change the filter, you will be fine if you do that. Id also look into oil filters if your gonna buy all the hype about moly levels as well. A crappy oil filter is worse than crappy oil. I just tried the 11$ mobile one filter for mine we will see how the oil looks when i change it at 24k miles. I dunno this is an on going debate among tuners/enthusiasts, go with your gut. If your car reccomends a certain oil, um yeah use that :thumbup: Unless you dont value your warranty. :rolleyes:

Royal purple is supposedly "the Best" from what ive heard. But i still run 10-w30 Mobile 1 in my car.(for the winter)


And they are comparing a 10-w30 mobile 1 oil to the other oils which were 5-w30's that alone kinda distorts the results.

Yeah, i didnt post this to say that Mobil 1 is a crap oil or anything. Just that there additive packages pale to other "high end" synth oils. I have religiously used either Royal Purple or Mobile 1 for years now. I think i may give the redline a shot the next go around though. There is also a oil testing company on that website somewhere that you can get your oils tested after use. Its actually very cheap too. It would be nice to keep a vile of the mobil 1 and a vile of maybe a redline or royal purple to see how it acts in your car......deposits, etc.

Like i originally posted, its just a cool source of info on oils if anyone was interested. :)

Another thing though is price. Last time I checked, Mobil 1 was MUCH less expensive than Redline and Royal Purple, so really, IMO, it's comparing different classes of products.

I know a lot of guys on the ClubRSX.com Board are very big fans of Royal Purple and have used it for the past couple of years and so far I haven't heard a single complaint. I was thinking about trying it out but like slavetothemuzic said...the price difference.

When I went to Honda school they would talk up Mobil products too. And if you buy Honda brand oil it will clearly be marked with a Mobil label on the back.

That right there says a lot too cause I see Honda as a very reliable company that puts out reliably good products.

And I know at one point Mobil 1 was used in top end cars from Porsche and even in the Viper.

Anyway, I like to use Mobil 1 cause it is easy to get and cheap compared to Redline and Royal Purple. When I plan on doing 1/4 mile laps in the DSM I make sure to use Redline only. If I'm just trying to waste gas I'll use Mobil 1 with a quart of Redline. The Pilot gets Mobil 1 and a quart of Redline as well. The Saturn gets castrol and maybe a quart of Mobil 1.

As far as I know Redline is one of the best out there. Royal Purple is next and Mobil comes after them. This also reflected in their pricing.

Btw, I get Redline from Summit Racing. And I just noticed that Pepboys carries Royal Purple here in Philly. Anyone want to recommend places where I can get Redline oil....

yeah i was wondering where to get redline as well. i saw it in summit for $7.99/qt i believe. ill have to dig into their website to see who their distributors are and where they are located. My buddy used Delo 400 with a valvoline (i believe) additive in his alky car. He said that the delo 400 was highly recommended for turbo'd cars. Its not pricey either. Its on that chart i posted somewhere. :wink:

For the price difference, and how many miles I put on the car daily, I just can't justify using Redline. I got over 150K miles on my Nissan Altima using generic brands of oil. I use Mobil1 in the WRX, and am confident that it's doing it's job.

I used mobil 1 in my first DSM. I got that with 33 miles on the odo and it lasted into the 200k range running 12s starting at 100k miles. And I mean I beat the snot out of that car.

And considering I don't drive the DSM more than a thousand miles a year anymore it is easy putting Redline in it.

I've been sticking with Mobil 1 for my DSM, and Castrol for motorcycles. I haven't had any real problems with either.

im switching to royal purple next oil change, its only a buck more per quart. been running mobile one for a year now, change it every three thousand.. but i dont know. for only a dollar more ill jump up in class.

been runnin mobil 1 Full Syn 5-20 for 100,000 miles. Not 1 engine problem.

Yeah, the point of this info was not to bash mobile 1. Of course its a very nice, quality oil. Just showing that there are other oils out there that have better additive packages, thus better for your engine, thats all. :wink:

I know. Sorry if I was coming off as an ass. :mrgreen:

you guys should check out amsoil. oil is icredible. and you dont have to change oil for 12k its guaranteed. my boy ran it in his 550hp z for 10k when he took the motor apart to part out i was stunned. never seen a motor that clean in my life. all you have to do is change your filter every 3k like normal.

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/tro.aspx
theres some info on there 20w 50 racing oil that i use in the summer months. well worth the money it costs

That's stupid. no offense.

They don't make an oil filter that can still function properly at that high of mileage...you'd STILL have to change the filter every 3k.

are you serious? did you read the website or any info on this oil? you want me to get pics from my boys motor after 10k and no oil change? please read on it