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redg2 02-26-2008 01:04 PM

making street racing legal?
 
this is all from autoblog:
It's a well hidden secret here in the States, but in Eastern Europe, Poland is a street racing Mecca. Concrete contests of speed are so prevalent in the land of the prior Pope and origin of the pirogi, that police in Lodz are conceding certain streets to rebellious racers. The goal is to concentrate racing to a speed limit-free zone, with hopes that racing-related accidents will plummet in other areas of town. Both police and the Lodz motor club will supervise the action on closed streets to ensure that complete lawlessness doesn't commence.

It seems everybody wins thanks to this unorthodox solution, with dragsters getting a place to hang and innocent drivers and bystanders having a better chance of not becoming collateral damage, like what happened last week in Maryland. Such a compromise would never happen in the US, however, as police (and insurance companies) would sooner take your license than leave speed limits to the ego of the driver and power of the car.


discuss

namdoogwerdna 02-26-2008 01:11 PM

original link? Interesting solution, idk how well it will work though.

Scapegoat 02-26-2008 01:16 PM

this isn't legal street racing.

This is organized events being over seen by the police and a racing club on a close course. Its paramount to a drag strip. It won't happen in the stats simply because of the lawsuits that would happen. Our laws are very different from other countries.

Besides, we don't have any roads that are without a speed limit.

Unfortunately... I would fully support something like this in the US, it just won't happen :-/

redg2 02-26-2008 01:18 PM

here is the originall link...http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/26/p...ertain-section

lawdogg 02-26-2008 01:45 PM

America has the same things, called "drag strips" ... but they cost money and aren't open 24/7.

DropTopChevy 02-26-2008 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scapegoat (Post 818844)
this isn't legal street racing.

This is organized events being over seen by the police and a racing club on a close course. Its paramount to a drag strip. It won't happen in the stats simply because of the lawsuits that would happen. Our laws are very different from other countries.

Besides, we don't have any roads that are without a speed limit.

Unfortunately... I would fully support something like this in the US, it just won't happen :-/

I thought Montana in some places doesn't have speed limits.
Either way the whole idea of lawsuits will not allow it here in the states. Also its more or less still going to have other illegal activities like at the street races and the police will not have it.

EvlEgl 02-26-2008 02:43 PM

The fact that America would shun such concepts boggles me...Instead of helping the cause they say No we wont bend and inch to accommodate something to possibly save lives??

Honestly, Not everyone enjoys going to the dragstrip, there is a sense of adrenaline you get when your on the street that some people cant seem to find at the dragstrip. And lets face it you will NEVER stop it EVER, its just plain facts...and really would it be so bad if there was a few streets in the city that they dedicated strictly to street racing? No probably not...You can argue this all you want if you gave someone a place where they could go FOR FREE and not have to worry about getting caught I think you would see a better response from the majority of people.

namdoogwerdna 02-26-2008 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DropTopChevy (Post 818907)
I thought Montana in some places doesn't have speed limits.

This is true. Technically the speed limit laws are up to the states, but the federal government controls them by saying that if there are no speed limits in a state or county, there will be no federal funding for the highways in those areas. Places like Montana said "screw it", didn't take the money, and don't have speed limits in certain parts. Other counties around the US have speed limits at 75 instead of 55, and other things of that nature.

namdoogwerdna 02-26-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EvlEgl (Post 818927)
The fact that America would shun such concepts boggles me...Instead of helping the cause they say No we wont bend and inch to accommodate something to possibly save lives??

It probably won't save a whole lot of lives, but it will save innocent lives. Drivers will still **** up and crash and die no matter where they are, so saying that it would save lives is a bid misleading.

piknockout 02-26-2008 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvlEgl (Post 818927)
The fact that America would shun such concepts boggles me...Instead of helping the cause they say No we wont bend and inch to accommodate something to possibly save lives??

Liability and lawsuits. It's the reason you can't do d@mn near anything anymore. While I think this is an interesting way to help curb the impacts, the real answer is getting people to do these things legally. While it costs money and you can't do it 24/7, I find it keeps me from being an @sshat on the streets. At the same time under the legal format, you truly can push the car to limits with minimal worry of damage (drag strip/autocross/road course). Or perhaps it's just me getting old. :lol:

EvlEgl 02-26-2008 03:19 PM

I cant really say it keeps me from being any different on the street, In fact I think going to Atco makes me wanna follow a few cars out at the end of the night and get a run in with them on the way home....that and I'm usually all excited about what I was just doing so it makes me wanna keep going when I leave.

Thats just my opinion on the matter.

America is getting worse and worse with Lawsuits anymore, when you can sue a Fast food place because you feel they caused your obesity and eating disorders, you have a ****ing problem

Vypurr 02-26-2008 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namdoogwerdna (Post 818937)
This is true. Technically the speed limit laws are up to the states, but the federal government controls them by saying that if there are no speed limits in a state or county, there will be no federal funding for the highways in those areas. Places like Montana said "screw it", didn't take the money, and don't have speed limits in certain parts. Other counties around the US have speed limits at 75 instead of 55, and other things of that nature.

Montana has a 75mph speed limit, and has had one since 1999

namdoogwerdna 02-26-2008 03:36 PM

Then my gov&politics teacher sucked. Haha.

Vypurr 02-26-2008 03:37 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_l...States#Montana

The fastest in the country right now is Texas with 80mph on Highways, but they are trying to raise it to 85 now!

namdoogwerdna 02-26-2008 03:38 PM

Ohhh 85, pushing the limits for sho

OptiCon 02-26-2008 03:44 PM

When you live in a place as big and flat as texas... 85 isn't NEAR fast enough.
When I was on my way out to Kansas I could see for over 3 miles ahead of me on a clear day.
Leave enough space between cars and you could pull off 100mph more safely than 55mph on rt422.

poolmike 02-26-2008 03:48 PM

The dumbass spelled pierogi wrong. Smack him. Now I have to make some and eat them.

Scapegoat 02-26-2008 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolmike (Post 818989)
The dumbass spelled pierogi wrong. Smack him. Now I have to make some and eat them.

those are ****ing delicious!

Keeper1343 02-26-2008 06:00 PM

i don't know why everyone thinks that speed has any correlation (spl?) with accidents or fatalities. They have proven this awhile ago many times. They have found that raising the speed limit actually lowered the amount of accidents ALOT. I also hate the fact that the speed limit is 55 when the highway isn't designed for 55 MPH. It is designed more for like 70 MPH. Traffic blockers showed ya. If you were to go 55 all the way down the highway you would have a ****load of traffic and accidents. The whole thing comes down to MONEY. They want to catch people speeding or racing so they can take their cars (bull ****) slap them with mad fines etc etc. Its total BS

Vypurr 02-26-2008 06:05 PM

Oh yea, no arguement there! The ultimate example is the Autobahn. Higher speed limits (or none at all) have been proven to increase awareness of the road and cars around you, increased seatbelt use, increased driver courtesy, and FAR fewer accidents.

When Montana had no speed limit, they has the fewest accidents on any state in the country.


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