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PAFirefighter11 10-18-2011 10:11 AM

Fatal Bike Wreck
 
There's one in Malvern (East Whiteland Township) near Phoenixville Pike & Great Valley HS. Happened around 0728 and the road is still shut down for the A.R.T. Hoping it's not anyone on TST.

Bates 10-18-2011 10:25 AM

Regardless if it is or isn't someone on the forum, I still feel bad. Seems like every few days I am hearing about another bike crash. I am kind of relieved that after riding a bike for my first time, I have lost any and all desire to ever get one.

PAFirefighter11 10-18-2011 10:29 AM

Most of the wrecks I am seeing lately are with sport bikes and high rates of speed. I've seen a few cruiser & Harley wrecks as well, though. I used to ride my Interceptor to/from work all the time, but lately I decided rush hour + my bike = no fun for many reasons.

Menacing_Gc8 10-18-2011 01:08 PM

oh wow... What caused this one? I noticed too that alot of the accidents are caused by a driver of a car not paying attention to the motorcycles on the road. was this a single vehicle MVA or was there a second vehicle/car involved?

Burnt2Death 10-18-2011 01:13 PM

I saw three different motorcycle accidents over this past weekend alone. One on 724 near Pottstown, one near Lancaster and one on 562 near Reading. ALL were sports bikes. Wish this one was a little closer for photos as usual.

Bates 10-18-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Menacing_Gc8 (Post 2059706)
oh wow... What caused this one? I noticed too that alot of the accidents are caused by a driver of a car not paying attention to the motorcycles on the road. was this a single vehicle MVA or was there a second vehicle/car involved?

I don't believe this to be 100% true.

I actually almost nailed a biker last week. I was changing lanes on a highway during a bit of congestion, and because he was bobbing and weaving out of traffic and riding in between cars I didn't see him and almost destroyed him. Luckily I didn't, but regardless, if I did hit him, I would not have felt bad because it would not have been my fault in my opinion.

mcperson2k 10-18-2011 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bates (Post 2059711)
regardless, if I did hit him, I would not have felt bad because it would not have been my fault in my opinion.

Nah bro, you wouldn't have felt bad because your just an http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../Ass-hole.jpeg.

Bates 10-18-2011 03:51 PM

Ohhhhh so it's my fault that some irresponsible biker is endangering himself and everyone else on the road because he is riding in a careless and dangerous fashion? Sorry I have no pity or sympathy for the stupid.

PAFirefighter11 10-18-2011 04:22 PM

I get passed in the shoulder and also with lane splitters when I am in my cager, and even on the bike. There are too many a-hole bikers out there that have fully ruined it for the rest of us. It really depends on each individual situation but bikers need to watch out for cagers and cagers need to watch out for bikers.

mcperson2k 10-18-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bates (Post 2059810)
Ohhhhh so it's my fault that some irresponsible biker is endangering himself and everyone else on the road because he is riding in a careless and dangerous fashion? Sorry I have no pity or sympathy for the stupid.

So basically what you are saying, is that you go about your life day to day, and you honestly don't think twice that maybe you are just an http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../Ass-hole.jpeg?

Bates 10-18-2011 04:34 PM

I've come to terms with that long ago. But again, I have no sympathy for those who willingly do stupid and foolish things. Be it on a bike, in a car, or whatever you may be doing. I'm sorry, but if you willingly play with fire, and get burned, I am suppose to be feel bad about it? I don't think so.

accordguy04 10-18-2011 04:41 PM

I gotta go with the asshole biker thing... I almost ran a guy off the road myself the other day... on purpose. (obviously not even close to true... but I thought about it) I was sittin at a red light with like 3 other cars and he just slides up right inbetween all of us and gets goin when the light turned green. He was FOUR CARS BACK at the light, and its ok for him to just move himself to the front of the pack? I dont think so, thats ****ed. Why do they not have to follow the same rules that everyone else does, and the same goes for the flyin down the shoulder of the road while everyones stuck in traffic. Thought about cuttin of onto the shoulder a couple times to teach that lesson too...

PAFirefighter11 10-18-2011 04:47 PM

I will admit, I WISH PA allowed lane splitting like CA does. Would be nice in traffic, though dangerous. Have I done it? Once, when my sis' was in a car wreck and I was going to the hospital. I felt bad enough knowing how upset I get when some a-hole on a bike passes me doing the same thing.

94503 10-18-2011 05:08 PM

well bates u r just as much of an idiot to state he was weaving in and out of cars in traffic when by the way it sounds u were doing the same unsafe method in ur car "I actually almost nailed a biker last week. I was changing lanes on a highway during a bit of congestion, and because he was bobbing and weaving out of traffic and riding in between cars I didn't see him and almost destroyed him", u just stated what u did a bit different but it the same no matter how u look at it

mcperson2k 10-18-2011 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by accordguy04 (Post 2059848)
Why do they not have to follow the same rules that everyone else does, and the same goes for the flyin down the shoulder of the road while everyones stuck in traffic.

You gonna http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...5bgXmycV_h2h4w bro?

Dustin 10-18-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 94503 (Post 2059864)
well bates u r just as much of an idiot to state he was weaving in and out of cars in traffic when by the way it sounds u were doing the same unsafe method in ur car "I actually almost nailed a biker last week. I was changing lanes on a highway during a bit of congestion, and because he was bobbing and weaving out of traffic and riding in between cars I didn't see him and almost destroyed him", u just stated what u did a bit different but it the same no matter how u look at it

Lane splitting and changing lanes aren't the same at all.
Some dude rode straight between the lanes of stopped traffic right by me earlier today. I was ready to change lanes when I heard his bike. He's lucky I didn't move.

Menacing_Gc8 10-18-2011 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bates (Post 2059711)
I don't believe this to be 100% true.

I actually almost nailed a biker last week. I was changing lanes on a highway during a bit of congestion, and because he was bobbing and weaving out of traffic and riding in between cars I didn't see him and almost destroyed him. Luckily I didn't, but regardless, if I did hit him, I would not have felt bad because it would not have been my fault in my opinion.

While I do agree that there are far more bikers who are asses, The same applies for car drivers too. I will admit I have wanted to open a door in traffic when they pull that **** of cutting up the center..however I also realize I dont know what thier hurry is and I dont want damage to my car let alone to early kill someone.

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Originally Posted by PAFirefighter11 (Post 2059829)
I get passed in the shoulder and also with lane splitters when I am in my cager, and even on the bike. There are too many a-hole bikers out there that have fully ruined it for the rest of us. It really depends on each individual situation but bikers need to watch out for cagers and cagers need to watch out for bikers.

That is the point!

accordguy04 10-18-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mcperson2k (Post 2059868)

No but some poor douchebag bikers family is gonna http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...5bgXmycV_h2h4w when I "don't see" said douchebag biker and lane change, and it wont be my fault as I'll have plenty of witnesses to say that he was flyin down the line in between the lanes. :eek:

DC2.2GSR 10-18-2011 05:47 PM

I too have zero sympathy for someone who dies on a bike because they were riding like an asshole. Too often they fly around like they're hot sh*t and they own the road and then when someone in a car makes a standard maneuver, whether it's pulling out or lane changing in front of them, the bikers act like it was the driver of the car who did something wrong. Then they go and get some gay ass bumper sticker that says "watch for motorcycles". F**k that, how about you stop acting like an asshole and ride like a normal human being? How about you watch for cars?

I saw a guy this past weekend fly up to an intersection going at least 100mph, and when a car made a turn out in front of him, the guy on the bike slammed on the brakes, barely stopping in time, and started throwing his arms around and yelling at the lady in the car like she did something wrong. Right, like the lady in the car was expecting (or could even see) a bike to come flying down the road out of nowhere, going double the speed limit. :roll:

I had to laugh at the thought that if the guy on the bike would have rear-ended the car, people would construct a makeshift grave marker full of flowers on the side of the road and say sh*t like "he went too soon.. he never deserved it.." etc. It's bullsh*t. You ride like an asshole and act like you're invincible and make the conscious decision to put other people in danger, and then you crash and die, you = f**king moron, and you got exactly what was coming to you.

amp 10-18-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bates (Post 2059608)
...I am kind of relieved that after riding a bike for my first time, I have lost any and all desire to ever get one.

fear trumped the enjoyment of riding on this one..

all this self righteousness... right..
like everyone here adhere and obeys to the letter of the law... to justify death over an infraction is a bit much..


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