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jkelz25 07-17-2009 11:00 PM

2007 g35: stage 2 supercharger? or twin turbo kit?
 
wondering what you guys will think would be better? lemme know. thanks

Supercharger: http://www.stillen.com/product.asp?i...odel=G35%202DR

Twin turbo kit: http://www.raceinspired.com/p-730-gr...iliateid=10065

hondakillers14 07-18-2009 11:13 AM

id go with the turbo kit but thats just me its your car so do what you want but id say turbo

jkelz25 07-19-2009 09:57 AM

ok thanks for the feedback but just wondering? why do you say turbo?

240kat 07-19-2009 06:15 PM

i would go with a supercharger, it easier to install on the g35.
but if you gonna go all out with build motor, i'll say go turbo.
i think my next car would be supercharged 350z or g35,after i sell my evo.

Renegade_ 07-19-2009 06:18 PM

Which ever one is easier. If your building the motor, go turbo. Its that simple.

jkelz25 07-19-2009 10:52 PM

Ok thanks guys

a2low240 07-21-2009 10:03 AM

go with the turbo, you will make more power in the long run. The VQ's get finiky above 10psi and make sure you put an oil cooler / oil temp gauge on it.

a2low240 07-21-2009 10:04 AM

and for a 2007 G35 I'm pretty sure you will need twin charge pipes fabbed up.

Vince@R/TTuning 07-21-2009 11:16 AM

super charger and turbo are both gonna feel pretty good. Turbo making more power and feeling a lil better then supercharger. If you do decide on a super charger dont go with stillen, they dont make muck power for the money u need to invest....

we just installed a APS TT kit on a G35 last week and fully tuned on ECU reflash...

If you want give us a call and we can go over some options for ya on kits and pricing...215 855 5565 thanx

keff108 07-21-2009 07:05 PM

If you have the money to go TT I suggest you build the motor first and then go TT. If you dont have that kind of money just got Vortech SC. BoostedG a member on here has a Vortech kit and is making like 402 whp. Not bad numbers if you ask me.

Im2Slow 07-30-2009 12:42 AM

IMO, the stillen superchargers are very reliable for a consistent daily driver, and fairly easy to install. But you will be paying alot of money for minimal HP increase, ..
If your looking for power and want a SC go with vortech

The APS tt kit is prolly the best on the market but is also exspensive, and quite a process to install,



If you have the money and time go with aps twin turbo kit, you won't be dissapointed

BrennanJeff 08-01-2009 06:58 PM

Turbooooooo

gospdracer90 08-03-2009 10:34 PM

i dont know much about either but i have heard from some Z33 guys that they really dont like how the car feels turbo i guess because of the lag or something but iv heard alot more good new from the car being superchargerd... i feel like if your going to twin turbo your car then you really only plan on going in a straight line and those cars are really good handling cars so it depends on what you want out of your car

98GSXdude 08-03-2009 11:42 PM

All I hear is problems with boosted Z33 Z's and G's. If you want a reliable boosted Z go with a Z32.

BlinkerFluid 08-03-2009 11:53 PM

I would suggest turbo, you aren't limited by things such as belt slip if you ever want to really crank it up.

Best bet is to try to arrange a ride in a supercharged Z/G and a turbocharged one.

I'm willing to bet you will like the turbocharged one better.

Ace 08-05-2009 02:39 PM

There is no choice, go with a Jim Wolf Turbo Kit. Instant power!

BoostedG 08-05-2009 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keff108 (Post 1444073)
If you have the money to go TT I suggest you build the motor first and then go TT. If you dont have that kind of money just got Vortech SC. BoostedG a member on here has a Vortech kit and is making like 402 whp. Not bad numbers if you ask me.

I say go with the s/c. I made great numbers ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
plus you have a 07 rev-up motor, your make better numbers then me. I have a 04.

Vince@R/TTuning 08-05-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gospdracer90 (Post 1459313)
i feel like if your going to twin turbo your car then you really only plan on going in a straight line and those cars are really good handling cars so it depends on what you want out of your car

..huh...:bigeek:

BoostedG 08-05-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gospdracer90 (Post 1459313)
i dont know much about either but i have heard from some Z33 guys that they really dont like how the car feels turbo i guess because of the lag or something but iv heard alot more good new from the car being superchargerd... i feel like if your going to twin turbo your car then you really only plan on going in a straight line and those cars are really good handling cars so it depends on what you want out of your car

lol Wtf are you talkin about

fballman1987 08-05-2009 06:13 PM

why twin turbo? why not just one properly sized turbo?

BoostedG 08-05-2009 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im2Slow (Post 1453771)
IMO, the stillen superchargers are very reliable for a consistent daily driver, and fairly easy to install. But you will be paying alot of money for minimal HP increase, ..
If your looking for power and want a SC go with vortech

The APS tt kit is prolly the best on the market but is also exspensive, and quite a process to install,



If you have the money and time go with aps twin turbo kit, you won't be dissapointed

:iagree: The thing about Stillen your only going to get big number from a stage4 kit. And Stillen going give a warranty on a stage 2 kit. And you have you get a new hood, The s/c will not fit with your hood.

Vortech get better numbers. I know cuz I have one on mine. And Vortech give 3 years or 36,000 mile warranty on any kit. If you need to know anything more about it pm.

its all about how much money you have and how much power you want.

Schepis 08-05-2009 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98GSXdude (Post 1459436)
All I hear is problems with boosted Z33 Z's and G's. If you want a reliable boosted Z go with a Z32.

Miss yours Chris? lol

Ace 08-08-2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fballman1987 (Post 1461951)
why twin turbo? why not just one properly sized turbo?

IMO and experience, you can NEVER duplicate the response and linear torque curve of two smaller turbos with a single. Surely, there is a bit more to the install and setup, but two internally gated 28's on a 350z are like heaven in a bottle, and provide nice top end too....where with a single you tend to find speicfic powerbands, and not so much all around.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace (Post 1461677)
There is no choice, go with a Jim Wolf Turbo Kit. Instant power!


...yesssssssssssss

**Alex** 08-10-2009 08:56 PM

Turbo.. End of discussion :thumbup:

Candyman 08-10-2009 09:19 PM

Twins
 
I have an APS TT Tuner Kit (External wastegates, journal bearing turbos) on my Z and have had it on there for about 12,000 miles. During which time I have done about 6 drift events, driven from Philly to NYC at least 15 times, driven to work every day, done about 10 dyno pulls, and never had an issue other than fouling spark plugs, burning up a clutch (street disc), and some problems that came from mistakes I made during the install. The car was tuned safely by Vince @ R/T and makes about 400whp @ 7.5 psi (keep in mind this car is setup for drifting). The power is instant and the delivery is consistent. The car will spool up in 5th gear on the highway. In the low gears, it hits full boost at about 3800 rpm.

I did alot of research before I turboed my Z (and I do have another longblock getting built b/c I know the stock VQ will not last forever). Single turbo kits have a tendency to overboost and blow motors; they are also much more difficult to route, so you run into the intercooler pipes running over the turbo and getting heated issues, plus minimal downpipe clearance, plus a mess of exhaust pipes (they connect the two manifolds, route them back to the front of the motor, then run a downpipe back to the exhaust - it's like the WRX from hell). Or you have to run an auxiliary electric oil pump like the APS single.

If I had not gone w/ the APS kit, I would have gotten a Vortech Blower; the simplicity and capability of those kits is great; they don't make insane amounts of power, but they do make good power. They're pretty straightforward to install as well. If you get a good twin kit (JWT, APS, or Greddy w/ the right pieces), good injectors (I run DW 600s w/ a fuel return line system and walbro pump) and a good tune (I currently have a UTEC and Uprev flash, planning to go all Uprev and having Vince @ R/T tune it) you will not go wrong. Of course your stock NA motor that you have now boosted will not last forever, but there's no reason you can't rack up some miles on it w/ a TT setup reliably if you do it right the first time.

If you are seriously considering boosting your VQ, I strongly suggest talking to the guys at R/T, they have a ton of experience with these cars and do excellent work.

phatmax97 08-13-2009 07:14 PM

go with a turbo. superchargers are nice i have one. turbos werent available when i got it. other wise it would have been turbo. its better when u can control your boost!!! just my opinion

vq35deST 08-18-2009 08:16 PM

Turbo + Osiris Uprev + RT Tuning = Successssssssstt..

captainhook 08-18-2009 11:14 PM

S/C it!

jkelz25 08-21-2009 09:18 AM

thanks alot for the feedback guys. i think i am leaning towards twin turbo! what size would you guys recommend?

Blck350z 08-28-2009 11:52 PM

You can answer your own question.......It depends on your type of driving.... is this going to be: a DD, a track beast, a 1/4 mile car, or just to brag you have f/I???? after you answer that... a roots type blower ( Stillen ) is a waste of money.... Centrifugal ( ie Pro-Charger or Vortech ) is a great choice for a linear power band ( ie. feels stock w/ 1.5x the power :) ). Twin Turbo's add a lot of torque so make sure you take it to a good tuner!!!! Greddy is one of the time tested kits on the market. Recently they came out w/ the 20G kit for the DE's and HR's which will have plenty of room to expand if you build your motor. The JWT 530 is also a good kit and will spool up quickly but limit you if you build your motor. Although you can upgrade the turbo's to the "700 or 850" range, you will pay a hefty price.... I actually had the Power enterprise kit ( one of the smallest TT kits for the Z. I hit full boost at 2900 RPM and it pull the whole way to 6000 where the power started to dip a bit. ( do not get this kit if you plan to build its limited to about 500whp on a dynojet. ). Single turbo's which are either Turbonetics which is a waste of money b/c of the constant repairs for the welds breaking or the Powerlab single which has been proven to be a great versatile kit. using the GT35R it has the potential for 550-600whp and will perform nicely on stock blocks. If there is one thing every F/I kit has in common is DO NOT CHEAP OUT on the Engine management........ or the TUNER!!! go with someone qualified !!!!! Ask your tuner ( whom ever you decide ) which EM they prefer... they will be able to steer you in the correct direction. You can listen to everyone say which they prefer but the tuner is the one who will have to tune it ! Good luck and have fun!!! boosted VQ's are very fun.

Blck350z 08-29-2009 02:54 PM

^^^ to add to this if you do consider the APS TT kit... becareful you research. The new APS kits are unlike the ones they were producing about a year ago b/c they use cheaper journal bearing turbo's and not the dual BB ones used in the previous kit. They top out at about 500 whp.... so they are great again if you don't build. As far as longevity.... I do not know. I know the greddy's journal bearing turbo's are of a higher quality and they do last.

vq35deST 08-29-2009 06:56 PM

one con of the APS TT kit from what ive seen in others experience is you have to remove the engine and tranny for smoother install...

Blck350z 08-30-2009 12:22 PM

Any TT kit you should remove the engine!!!! it will save a bunch of time and you can correctly torque everthing down!! I installed my TT kit on jackstands in my garage and throughout the install I could've killed some body almost every night. But it was a good learning experience.... the worst part is the passenger side turbo..... it stradles the motor mount and is a PITA to get on. Anyways before I'd do anything go over to "My350z.com" and go under the Forced Induction part and snoop around a bit.. theres a ton of info out there

EverybodyWildOu 09-23-2009 07:27 PM

I might be selling my Vortech SC kit off my 350z along with the supporting mods.

I made a reliable 378hp on a dyno dynamics. 427 with DJ correction.

But either way you go, DO NOT get a stillen. You'll be disappointed you wasted your money for stock-like power.

jkelz25 09-23-2009 10:22 PM

ko thanks alot and what is wrong with the stillen sc?


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