HID color Question
 

i see many many sites with HID bulbs and all of their color temp in "k" look different.

im looking for this color exactly for the output

just a touch of blue, yet pretty white and bright

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2285/hidlightbt6.jpg

bumb over my last post in other thread

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x...HID3colors.gif

Edit: The ones you shown in your post look like ther 4300K, what comes on most cars stock. Most people who install these usually go to 6K, there not to blue, but they have just a hint of blue in them. The farther you go, the different color change you will have. Anything past like 12K, I belive is illegal.

Mine are 5000K but the problem is photos can be changed. It's real hard to tell. I like my 5000K but I would get 4300K if I had a choice again. Mine are real white, but enough blue to bug the piss out of me.

5000K HID's on left halogen H9 on right:
http://pafirefighter11.smugmug.com/p...91_hZMT8-L.jpg

5000K HID's:
http://pafirefighter11.smugmug.com/p...03_t66AL-L.jpg

http://pafirefighter11.smugmug.com/p...70_rNsKS-L.jpg

Any HID kit is illegal no matter what the color. If you're putting in projectors and run 4300K it's a small chance you'll be cited for them. The more blue they are, the more you're asking for trouble.

After-market hid's are only illegal if you get caught with them. Most cops usually don't give any one a hard time, because most cars now come stock with them, so they really can't do much about it.

Something like this?

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/f...s/DSC01025.jpg

This reminds me, I need to get some pictures of my hid's.

the ones in my pic are def not 4300k cuz i have 4300 and they are pure white. but 6000k looks almost pure blue to me.

I was gonna say that but you beat me to it. If you can find lights between 4300k and 6000k then that would be perfect. I think I've seen 5k before. The ones in my pic are 4300k but they aren't warmed up.

DDM offers a kit with 5k.

Ok, here's the schpeel:

According to this chart you can see to what degree different colors land in the Kelvin chart: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ckianLocus.png

Now, 6500k is what it is mid summer day with no clouds.

HID's are ment to put out brighter then halogen light, rather then color, so above 6k you start to lose light output due to it becoming colored light.

If you want pure white light, go with a 5k. If you want the most light output just fringing on color, go with 6k.

I have 6k in my elantra, and have only had one police incident with it, which was such a fluke I almost don't even count it. Here's a pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...D/IMG_0109.jpg


Here's an on the road pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...D/IMG_0113.jpg


Just remember though, aim them so that you are not blinding oncoming traffic, or you WILL have police issues.

6k all the way

BTW the first picture posted isnt 6k...they are definitely 8k because thats exactly how my lights look.

You cannot usually tell the Kelvin temp from photos. Different camera's, different camera settings, different monitors, etc. I wouldn't go higher than 5000K personally. Do you live near West Chester? I can show you mine if you want to see them.

Do you go out to any meets? I'd like to see them because I would like to get 5000k but not sure if thats what I want.

I had 10000k headlights and 3000k (yellow) fog lights on my srt4, i was pulled over and sited 3 times with "fix it Tickets". Then the car was stolen, If its attention you want hid's will def get it, good or bad... I am a little nervous about getting them for my rex.

http://patmullins.com/img/colortempchartorig.jpg

The pic you posted looks to be 5000k, or 5300/5400, whatever they sell them as.

GL

I've only been to a Friday Night Exton Meet once and to a Sonic Meet (unofficially). I'll be at my clubs "Final Fall Fling" on Sunday, October 12th but that's a 12pm meet so you won't really see much illumination on the road. That meet is in Peace Valley Park in Bucks County.

But again, if I could do it over again I'd go with 4300K. The company I got my HID's from did not offer less than 5000K :(

Yep 4300K is the shizz. I have 8000K and I'd like to switch at some point.

I'm very happy I went with 4300K. I would definately buy the same temperature if I were to do it again.

I am going on the October run on the 12th.:(

I always thought this was a good color comparison pic:

http://aiva.pl/~wplaskur/jasnosci.JPG

As someone said earlier, pictures won't really help since everyone see's colors slightly different, and also because of monitor calibrations. Like for me on my monitor, the 6k in that pic looks green.

I turned down Warminster Auto-X for the Fall Fling! :( Where is the run located?

for me too

http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...ad.php?t=61094

Thats the thread. You'll have to email Chaos and see if he can get more people in. I am going with Alex(cleanneon).

Well i got 100$ that says its gonna be the 8k. The 6k actualyl look like hyper white, barely a tint of blue. While the 8k have a much more defined blue hue to them

4300k offers the best light output. As you go higher in temperature the light output actually decreases slightly. I had a 4300k retrofit in my old prelude and i loved it, never got pulled over for the lights either. Once i get together enough money I'm probably going to retro fit my 240.

i had 10ks in my vento for 2 years didnt get pulled over once, 4300s are what comes stock in many cars, but you will loses some temp as the bulbs are used a 6k setup would be best for visability but will look pure white, 8ks will give you the light blue hue, 10s are a deep blue and when i had 12s they were purple

I was wondering about what temp to get too. Also how about Wattage... I see 35 and 55 watt. It seems like 35 is more common, but I'm curious what people recommend?

I am fine with 35w. I have a civic with 5000K, and I had a choice of 35w and 55w. I read that 55w COULD output a little brighter, but going 55w means you most likely have to uprade your stock wiring harnesses. For my car, 35w was safe enough.

As for color, 4300K is the color that comes stock in some cars. However, you must realize that most of these cars come with projectors. When you see the "blue" from these cars, you are actually seeing the cutoff in the light from the projectors. When you plan to use your stock housing reflectors, you won't have such a clear cutoff, which means you wont see that blue color.

As someone else said, 4300K - 6000K is not that different in terms of light output, just small hints of color. I personally think 5000K is pure white. This chart helped me decide my color and I hope it helps you and everyone else.

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/e...ID20kelvin.jpg

The light on the ground in the first pic looks like 6000K, that's what I have on 2 of my cars and will continue to use. Remember a 35 watt HID kit puts out over 3000 lumens, where as most halogens are around 1200 lumens. A 55 watt kit will be near 4000 lumens and way too bright to use on the road.

Here's my 6000 K Apexcone's in a refractor lens, no projector. Terrible cutoff but I can see great, no police issues either.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../tDSC02920.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/DSC02321.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n/DSC02319.jpg

that's what i'll be doing for my teg. 4300 is an OEM temp for a reason. absolutely the best light output. IMO, the blue tint of 6000-8K HID's is an instant ricer tag. i think it looks cheap and cheesy. of course anything above 8K is pure stupidity. you're just asking to get pulled over or run into something in the dark. as soon as you get above 5K your visibility starts getting worse and worse. a friend of mine has McCulloch 6K in his prelude and i really don't like the look of it at all.

i haz 20k LOLZLOLZOLZLOLZ i hate myself for buying them :/

DO NOT!!!! buy 55w HID unless you have glass housing, or youll most likely melt the lens

id go between 4000k-6000k (numbers vary by company) for 35watt ----plastic housing
and 5000kish or higher for 55w------- glass housing (because 55w come out more yellow for some reason)

Pics? Are those the pink ones?

Very cool! Thanks.

I disagree about worrying about the whole wire frying. I don't see how 55w HID would burn the harness. Only time I could see that maybe being a little when it is at start up. Otherwise 55w is 55w. Wether it be HIDs or Halogens. I had 100w Halogens for over a year in my Prelude before I had my HIDs and it didn't hurt it one bit

Every car is different. Some factory wiring harnesses aren't too bad and use 12 gauge wiring. I've seen as thin as 18-20 gauge wiring on stock headlights before. This is the reason why an upgraded wiring harness with relays and fuses is highly recommended! I have said harness on both of my vehicles. You also get MORE light output out of your lights (even factory) if you upgrade to one of these harnesses. Thicker wire, running right off the batter = more power to the lights.

there i can agree that from car to car it will vary, but generally i think its pretty safe. I have HIDs on a Chrysler for Gods sake. But as for upgrading wireharness how do i go about that? where do i start how much should i expect to spend?