No, you can open carry legally PERIOD (except in a city of the first class; Philly, pittsburgh, etc)

In a car, as boostjunky stated, you need a ltcf

You are also not exempted from the federal GFSZA while OC without LTCF from home state. Reciprocal
License or Permit not valid for that.

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Pittsburg and scranton are both cities of the second class. The rest are of the third.

Right. The only city of the first class in PA is Philly, which only means that you need to possess a LTCF to OC. All other cites, towns, "burghs", etc. are ok to OC with no LTCF while on foot.

I haven't posted here in forever, but attached is my little sidekick. High polished stainless CZ75B.

Nice. Someone with taste. I love my 75. Best combat 9mm ever produced.

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looking to get a solid conceal carry weapon for when my company moves into the city, in about a months time. so shopping now...

my cousin, who is a gun nut, recommended i look at the same gun his brother has. not sure on the make, but it's a hammerless .357 revolver similar to this. which seems perfect as a conceal weapon since it's small, won't get the hammer caught on clothing, and it'll pack a hell of a punch. I'm not looking for something to use in a fire fight... if i picked up a gun w/ a clip it'd be a .45 (which i want to get for home defense)

any other input on good conceal options? i don't want anything bulky or difficult to use, and i especially don't want anything my coworkers will see as i don't want cause for concern from them.

Just depends on how much you want to spend. If you have say, a $1,000 max, there is almost no limit to what we can recommend.

Personally, I carry the gun in my avatar. It is a compact .45 that packs a hell of a punch. .357 is a great round, but it might be a little excessive for just personal defense.

my preference would be around $500, and i've no issue picking up a used gun as my first.

i think i'd like to carry a revolver for simplicity's sake.

with my commute i don't intend to ever need to use it, but there may be times when out after work or for lunch that i could come in handy. my commute is literally a train ride into suburban station, then a block and a half walk underground with an entrance into the building.

i plan on applying for my ltcf this week, or next weekend at latest. and then utah once i figure out that nonsense.

any recommended gun courses?

Nothing wrong with a used guns. Even with a $500 limit, you can still find a pretty nice gun. Revolvers are great, very simple and easy to use. Like with any gun though, it takes time at the range to become proficient with them, especially under extreme stress.

As far as where you intend to use it; these things tend to happen when you least expect them to, so be sure to always have the gun in a place where it can be easily accessed. Depending on how comfortable you are carrying, you are looking at either IWB (inside the waistband) or OWB (outside the waistband) carry.

I know of some courses, but they are only out in my area. One of the other guys in here should be able to direct you to some good beginner courses closer to where you live.

For more infomation on carrying and, more importantly, PA's gun laws, you should browse this website. You will find almost everything you need to know, including recommendations for training.

http://forum.pafoa.org/

Great option there. I have to ask though, how much experience you have with shooting DA revolvers? Or just in general?
It is not nearly as easy as a semi.
I would suggest renting one first and give it a try. They are not fun to shoot. Groups will take practice.
Not trying to dissuade you. Just wondering if you are considering all that is involved in a DA snubby.

I would go for one chambered in .38 spl. Carry 158gr. LSWCHP's and you will have more than enough stopping power with better recoil and target reacquisition.
Imo .357 out of anything less than a 6" bbl is wasting energy.

You stated you would not want a semi unless a .45 acp. Why, may I ask? It would be better to be closer to 100% proficient with a small .32 or .380 or 9mm than say 60% with a DAO wheel gun. There is great ammo choices for them from Corbon and Buffalo Bore.

Another great option is a P-64 or other small combloc pistol with some hot 9x18.





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i havent been to a shooting range since i was 16. however, that being 13 years ago, i was fairly proficient with grouping w/ a .357 magnum, longer barrel. all within the large black circle. not sure on distance :/

shot a weapon a few years ago redneck style at a license plate and didn't miss a shot at maybe... 50'? not 100% sure on the details since it's been around 3 years.

i want single round stopping power from a defensive gun. most issues i can forsee coming up would be short range, though obviously that's an assumption.

i also have no idea what this means ;) :

Well, most personal defense situations occur within 10 feet. Even though that is very close range, the pressure on you is enormous. Typically, you have 1.5 to 3 seconds MAX to recognize the threat, draw, aim, and fire. Even the most competent shooters have difficulty placing a single shot right where it needs to be under this kind of pressure. As far as single round stopping power, that is pretty much a myth. Despite what is seen in movies and tv, most people do not go down with a single shot. If you find yourself in a situation where you have NO OTHER OPTION other than using deadly force, you will want to be sure that you stop the agressor, and that usually means making your bullets follow that person to the pavement.

This is why buying a gun that you can shoot accurately, no matter the situation, is so important. When faced with this kind of threat, panic sets in. You need to practice a lot to be competent with your gun because when you need to use it, you HAVE to be sure that your shots will hit the intended target. If you have a flier and it hits a bystander, you are pretty much screwed.

158 grain= weight of the bullet in the cartridge.

Lead
Semi
Wad
Cutter
Hollowpoint

In a +p or high pressure

It is also known as the FBI load, as that is what they carried for years in 4" .38 S&W revolvers

My first choice would be a small combloc 9x18 single stack semi auto.
Good stopping power, strong frame(usually steel, some alloy), cheap ammo.

Cheap cost too. Sometimes under $200.

I often question myself carrying expensive guns. God forbid you ever have to use it in a defensive shooting. You will never, ever get it back. Even if the shoot is found justifiable.

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could you link to such a gun?

http://www.armslist.com/classifieds/...search=Makarov

Use the search term "makarov"
Take your pick

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This dealer has 5 in what appear to be unissued packed in cosmoline.

http://www.armslist.com/posts/396328...lent-condition


I might have to grab one myself
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It doesn't exist outside of Hollywood. "One shot stop" is a myth. In any self defense scenario, you continue to shoot until you stop the threat. That could mean one shot to the head or ten to the chest. You should not even consider carrying a weapon until you read this entire artice: FBI - Handgun Wounding Factors and Effectiveness.

Scape, it would benefit you to attend a group shoot to try out a lot of guns before making your decision. I'm all for organizing another one ASAP.

i would 100% love to attend one ASAP as well


thanks!