Since you're not listening to any advice, I'll tell you what you want to hear.

If you're thinking about using a camera to start a business, even if it's just a very slight chance that you start one, I think you should buy a Nikon D3 and call it a day. Why waste the money on buying a D40/60/80/90 when in the end you're just going to want to upgrade...and while your at it, you're going to need lenses covering from super wide to telephoto, so the 14-24, 24-70, and 70-200 should cover you so the camera can take the photos for you.

Lulz. This was an awesome 4.30am read!

Thanks ya'll!

Is the photogrpahy class's a creditied coarse!

yes teh portogphray class's a cretided corse.


stop bull****ting and just listen to everyone. you're listening to professionals who make money to shoot.

. . . . . either buy something cheap like everyone said

or like vwcorradokid said, get a d3, get some fixed low aperture lenses, get one for every focal range, get some zooms, get a tripod, get a strobe setup, get triggers, get umbrellas, get soft boxes, get stands, get backdrops, get a studio, get an assistant, etc. and don't listen to a word anyone in here said, because we are all just trying to help you from our own experience.

be courteous, whether you buy a camera now or forget the whole schpeal. we all just saved you money.

yea, well Ill look into the Canon G10, maybe ill take a ride out to circuit city or best buy today and check it out.

yet again you're not listening. it was mentioned before to forget about CC, BB, etc and go to a Camera Shop where the employees will be able to give you helpful information.

Lets just let it go... I'm more focused now on having this as a good resource for others in the future who may be interested in getting a camera...

i guess you're right. make it an FAQ sticky?

I am listening, someone mention that id look at the Canon G10, That doesnt mean I have to go to a Camera shop to do it, Troll You mention I should go to Allen's in PA. ill defintely look there as well.

So basically are saying, I ought to take a Photography Class, and Get a Non SLR Camera, for the time being correct. and I that i should go to a useful Camera shop to get the feel of a Camera and to learn more about it as I go along.

if you're going to take a photography class. they will require you to have a camera, slr or non-slr, they dont care. i know that in my class theres a girl that has a point and shoot that takes better pictures than half of the people in the class with slr cameras (nikon & canon alike)

if you're close to a Community College, register for their introduction to digital photography course, or whatever the hell they call it. your teacher will then suggest what to get.

Oh really, what kind of camera does she have?

I guess Now the only choice, I have is to look over the information you guy's gave me.

the reason we suggested a P&S is because they are generally easier to get used to/use than a dslr is. If you are going to be taking a class, an entry level dslr would be perfect because the professor and students will be able to help each other learn the uses of the camera. we were simply advising against buying a prosumer/professional camera before you are ready. the choice is yours and only yours to make, we're here to give you sound advice as having gone through all of this before.

i dont know, but thats not the point, just like 10 other people said. the camera doesnt matter, how many times does it need to be said

heres are pictures taken with a 4mp point-and-shoot camera
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/...3ba54b5c_o.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceball.gif

and now with an 8mp slr
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/4...292f76b8_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3204/...79e543f5_b.jpg

and just for arguements sake, heres some with a 21mp camera
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2409/...5d16c183_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3135/...dae00a57_o.jpg

ha the last two are LEAPS AND BOUNDS above the first three posted

Wow..this was...interesting haha

dont tell him that... haha

ha im just saying, theres really no comparison. the first three arent terrible, the last two are just much much better

This post is a great area to leanr more about photography and stuff in that catorgory. I have a olympus sp-500uz which i guess is a good point and shoot camera but after using it i have found that i like photograpphy and never go to a car event with out it. My dad got the D80 a little while ago and i play with the thing all the time. After playing with his D80 i was thinking of getting something similar. I know nikon makes good ones but what else is out there i want to check out different brands to see which one is the best and maybe u guys can help with ur experience. It would be greatly appriciated for ur help

'round here we have a pretty even split between nikon/canon shooters. it really comes down to what you feel comfortable with. I shoot canon, i've also shot nikon and I couldn't be happier. just get out and try a few different things to see what you like.

Ok thanks im probally gonna play around with my dads D80 and try to find a photography course since my school dosent have one which sucks and ill probally be out looking for one on my own

they're are really nice photo's none to less, maybe one day I could hook up with one of you' guy's and we can do camera comparsion and see which one i Like best that's P&S as you call it. there's alot of class's i like to take, including Firefighting in the future, thank's for the info keep it going.

alot of Guy's are recommending just a regular Digital camera, basically a P&S I like rice has, stated the Canon G10 is a pretty good starter camera.

to look at images from cameras check here
http://www.flickr.com/cameras/

its nice because it shows the great images from all cameras...most of the time.

yes i have looked at the canon but im not looking at something like that my olympus already has mostly the same options as the canon. After using my dads D80 i am thinking of going more towards one like that i guess u can call it more professiotnal. My olympus is a good point and shoot camera but i want to move on but thanks for the help

Yea it even give's a graph on the camera's to

just for the record, I Like Rice DOES NOT use a point and shoot camera. He is a professional photographer with years of experience and thousands of dollars in camera equipment. im not sure if you're confusing what has been said but none of the people that have given you advice are shooting with a point and shoot camera

Ive looked into the sameone your dad's has, they saying its not practical at this time. I just have to go to a camera store, and see some camera's for myself and see which one i like best.

im not sure if you think Canon only makes point and shoot cameras but they and nikon are the top two competitors for professional and amateur photography gear.

yea but he recommend to me the G10 would be best. If i wanted to go the SLR route at this time, but after your post's and realizing the idea's your giving it wouldnt be logical at this time to get an SLR.

wow great site thanks for showing it to me

Nikon P&S cameras, for the money, don't offer the same value as the Canon P&S. Nikon are fine for someone that will stay in auto mode, but the Canon image quality in auto and manual mode is superior to the Nikon counterparts.

Nah i know both nikon and canon make great professional cameras. When my dad was looking for his D80 he was looking at both companies. Im just trying to see what other people think of what else is out there since my dad can be one sided sometimes

ah thanks. i was speaking more towards their DSLR counterparts. stillen, if you're thinking of seriously getting into photography, getting a DSLR is not a bad idea. they can be had for pretty cheap nowadays. the only reason we said to consider a point and shoot is because in your first few posts you said you were looking at very high end cameras, and THOSE at this point would be overkill. an entry level DSLR on the other hand, would be fine.

yea well I overlook thing's sometime's what camera would you recommend as a starter, either DSLR or Non. ill take both into consideration.

The reason the people in this forum are saying that is not pratical is that this is the begining of ur photo career my dad has had a olympous point and shoot for about 6 years and he was playing around with that before he moved on to the D80. He saw that he like to take pics from his point and shoot and went to move on to something bigger. And he has got me into the pic taking thing also and i am looking into moving on since i am also trying to find a photo class somewhere since my college dosent have it

yea, My buddy has the same camera as your dad, Mercer has class's you should look into it, I will eventually.

Stillen. I would highly recommend a Canon Rebel XTi. They are very user friendly and a great beginner camera. As it happens, I have one for sale if you would be interested. I would favor the XTi over say the Nikon D40/x/60 because the canon is able to autofocus its lenses as the D40/x/etc. will only autofocus certain lenses.

yeah im gonna look into mercer but right now with college and two jobs its kinda hard too. Well wait since i work at mercer as i lifeguard maybe i can get some kind of deal lol but first im gonna do research with books and interent to see what level class i should take and stuff