it's cool. just keep on following the masses' opinion without questioning the content before you.

you should call that SWAT team up, clearly you're an expert in serving search warrants and tactics...they could really use a guy like you. :roll:

SpecRv9 was right if the guy never committed crime none of this would have ever happened.

and record the call so we can hear them all laugh at you! i have friends that are cops/military... sitting behind your computer is wayyyy different than getting ready to enter a house...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zifCu...eature=related

Not me btw.

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Originally Posted by NowThatsG
Just sick, if this was me, these are the steps I would need to take after going through this scenario


Step 1: Post Bail

Step 2: Head to Walmart and stock up on Ammo

Step 3: Set up shop in the bushes across the street from a bank

Step 4: Call that police department and report a hostage situation at the bank your sitting across from.

Step 5: Wait for that whole department to arrive, including SWAT Team and THEIR police dogs.

Step 6: Get sweet, sweet revenge.


Now thats G!


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THIS STATEMENT IS THE MOST DISTURBING THING IN THE ENTIRE THREAD.
I REALLY REALLY HOPE IT WAS WRITTEN JUST FOR SHOCK VALUE.
SOMEONE WITH THAT MENTALITY FOR REAL HAS NO PLACE IN OUR SOCIETY.

SWAT isn't the feds. Why do people just make accusations based on their very, very low intelligence and understanding of the world?

Cops kill dog in front of kid.
 

Seriously.
SWAT is elite LOCAL law enforcement. Please correct me if I'm wrong there. That's what i've heard and I am just repeating it.
I'm pretty sure that FEDs would have been DEA, FBI or ATF. right?

Fed units would be DEA, FBI, Marshall's(sometimes local police works with Marshall's), etc. SWAT are just elite paramilitary tactical units that are attached to police departments.

Not necessarily true. It's not NEARLY as unusual as it should be for the cops to do no-knock raids on the wrong house. Go ahead and google it.

It's for this reason and this reason alone that no-knock raids should be made illegal except for extreme circumstances like a hostage situation. What the **** is wrong with just staking out the house and waiting for the guy to leave then busting him?

Paramilitary tactics, assault weapons and the possibility of death have absolutely no business being used on drug dealers or users. Drug use is a non-violent crime and these types of tactics introduce the possibility for extreme violence and tragedy where none previously existed.

"Let's see, we've got a known drug dealer, probably heavily armed and guarded by vicious dogs. There may even be children in the home... I've got a great idea... let's surprise the **** out of him and bust into his home with weapons drawn and hope that 1) there's not a huge bloody shoot out, and 2) that whoever the dumb**** was that wrote up this warrant got the address right!" Does no one else really see the blatant stupidity in that statement?

The folks who don't hold cops to a higher standard than this are part of the problem.

once again, this was NOT a no-knock raid

ever see the first 48?...people get killed over a 15$ bag of weed...people really don't **** around in the drug game...Drug use is non violent, drug transactions aren't the same thing, especially when you're dealing with large amounts, and thousands of dollars.

What if the neighborhood was complaining about the house for a while? and the cops didn't do anything about it and during a transaction, the buyer shot and killed everyone in the family?...guess what? IT HAPPENS. And then neighbors would be complaining that they didn't do something fast enough to save the family...Cops really can't win anymore, no matter how they handle a situation....

and while I'm all for the legalization of marijuana, it's still illegal, and even if it was legal, the everyday person dealing with large amounts, would STILL be illegal...and cops would STILL be serving warrants on drug dealers houses rightfully.

Ill tell you what. If I came into my house (well my old house), and my parents dog came at me and I didnt know who the hell he was, id shoot the **** out of him. Hes big, looks mean, and would probably eat me. Damn right if I am a cop, in a hostile situation; that dog is going down.

+1

In the time it would take to "assess" whether the dog is good or not some ****** could shoot at you or your buddies and wreck your day.

I would be frightened too.

BEFORE:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...rokeCorgi1.jpg


AFTER:

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../193-corgi.jpg

First of all, it doesn't specify if it was a puppy or a grown corgi. My friend Kevin has two dogs. One is Max(lab) and one is Scooter(corgi). The Corgi is 200% more viscious than Max even being smaller. Second of all, the story says they shot a pitbull and corgi. It doesn't specify if the corgi was shot directly or if he was just in close proximity to the pit and got shot as a byproduct of that.

SWAT team breaks into home, fires seven rounds at family’s pit bull and corgi (?!) as a seven-year-old looks on.

Swat teams make big mistakes all the time. Look it up.

Secondly. They said it best.

http://ready-up.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/nwa.jpg

it's great to see some actual intelligence posted here.

i can't believe that s**t. some of you are actually twisting this story around to point to the "drug dealer" and say it was his fault his dog was shot and his family was put in danger, and his 7 year old was traumatized because he did something to make the police come to his house... you think that's the correct way to think?

you're saying that during a traffic stop, when you were obviously speeding, the cop that pulled you over did 'x', 'y' and 'z' things that led up to an excessive use of force against you, or somehow violated your rights... and it is YOUR fault that all of that happened because you did something to make the cop pull you over in the first place. tell me that makes sense and i'll gladly open the phone book and find you the number of a good psychiatrist. there's clearly something terribly wrong with you if you believe any part of that bulls**t.

this most certainly WAS a no-knock... just because they technically did knock on the guy's door, that doesn't mean the guy actually had time to respond, or that he even heard the knock or voices at all. when you knock, yell, wait a few seconds, and bust in the door... how is that sufficient time to answer the door? who's to say he wasn't taking a dump reading a magazine? who's to say he wasn't watching a movie with the volume turned up? no-knock doesn't literally mean NO knock. it means that there was no possible chance for the person inside to respond.

also, the logic that no dog's life is worth that of an officer's holds true only if there was a real, identifiable threat. if there was some kind of large crazed dog about to attack, then yeah.. put a few rounds into it. shoot/don't shoot situations for concealed carriers are the same as for police. everyone knows that avoiding injury is in no way/shape/form any kind of justification to take the life of anything or anyone. you don't draw and shoot unless there is a REAL threat to your life. you can't shoot a person because they're yelling at you and threatening to beat your ass. (i.e., a barking dog).

no matter which way anyone twists it, or how much information we lack, there was absolutely NO reason to shoot an animal that would obviously do you no harm. know your target and what's beyond...what's that, basic rule #4? sure, the kid and wife could have been out of the line of fire, but knowing your target also means recognizing a real threat as compared to a non-life threatening situation. when you bust into a room and identify targets, you must realize that A BARKING CORGI IS NOT LIFE THREATENING. ... YOU DON'T PULL THE TRIGGER!

you can say that I/we are armchair QBing all you want. you can blabber about us not knowing the real situation and whatever else... sure we weren't there. who cares? neither were you. when you actually examine the situation intelligently, it should be clear to anyone that shooting a small dog in front of a 7 year old kid while serving a narcotics warrant is unacceptable.

Best post so far.

:bigeek:

are you insane? that is the responsibility of anyone carrying a weapon, police or otherwise... IDENTIFY YOUR TARGET AND ASSESS THE LEVEL OF THREAT. you don't just shoot and ask questions later!