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dragonfly2k3 01-10-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidFire (Post 775453)
we need population control. kill those who are bad and are a drain on society. why do you think the world is more crowded now than before? cuz people arent killing each other as much. now im not sayin we need another genocide or anything, but why let them sit in a cell for the rest of their life? do you really think its gonna change them? and even if it does, why does it matter? it's not like they're gonna get a chance to go anywhere. so f it. just fry the bitch. they did what they did in a knowing manner and deserve the repercussions.

Im gonna go ahead and guess there are more people in the world due to improved health care and fertility drugs.

cmr076 01-10-2008 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by zerioustt (Post 775542)
you know why its not a deterrant? because they wait 18817878 years to kill them. as soon as theyre sentenced they should kill them. of course it doesnt scare them when they do one ever 10 years. if they carried through immediately with the execution i gaurantee you it would be a deterrant.

"Mental retardation, as defined by the American Association for the Mentally Retarded (AAMR), consists of three factors: a significantly sub-average IQ, generally below 75 (average IQ is about 100); a limited ability to perform some normal adult functions such as work, independent living and self-care; and presence of the disability before age 18."

the lowest 2 % of the population in the aspect of intelligence are among the highest 2 % of the population in terms of those being blamed

"in Since 2000 alone, 50 people have had their death sentences reversed in Pennsylvania as courts found serious legal errors in the original trials. if we DID just kill them as they were sentenced, we could very well be killing innocent people"

i doubt when a person with a sub 75 IQ is about to comit a murder, they take into consideration the fact that they will be put to death... and i HIGHLY doubt that even if they did think about the consequences, they would still do it because of how long it would take for them to actually be put to death...

where'smyturbo? 01-10-2008 07:28 PM

they claim that lethal injection costs a lot of money. as much money as it would cost to keep them and feed them. (so they say)

my solution to that is cut their heads off, hang them, firing squad, etc. they don't cost much money. pay for the bullets, or the rope.

cmr076 01-10-2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LiquidFire (Post 775453)
we need population control. kill those who are bad and are a drain on society. why do you think the world is more crowded now than before? cuz people arent killing each other as much. now im not sayin we need another genocide or anything, but why let them sit in a cell for the rest of their life? do you really think its gonna change them? and even if it does, why does it matter? it's not like they're gonna get a chance to go anywhere. so f it. just fry the bitch. they did what they did in a knowing manner and deserve the repercussions.

isnt "bad" and a "drain on society" kind of subjective? couldnt i consider you a "drain on society" because you use poor grammar and cant spell and are bringing down the average intelligence of the community?

::edit:: punctuation! i should be executed haha

im completely kidding, i am just trying to get a point across! :mrgreen:

IntegrasAreBest 01-10-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo4g63 (Post 775106)
i always had the "eye for an eye" opinion. Like if some guy raped and stabbed some innocent girl...they should take a broom handle and shove it up the dudes ass, then stab him to death. If someone puts another innocent person through torture, why should the murderer get the easy way out...**** that, they should feel it.

im with you 100 percent.

05suby 01-10-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo4g63 (Post 775106)
i always had the "eye for an eye" opinion. Like if some guy raped and stabbed some innocent girl...they should take a broom handle and shove it up the dudes ass, then stab him to death. If someone puts another innocent person through torture, why should the murderer get the easy way out...**** that, they should feel it.

completely agree.

turbo4g63 01-11-2008 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sirfallsalot243 (Post 775160)
Yeah! **** the constitution! :roll:

**** that dude....when that person murdered someone, he/she lost their rights as a citizen in my book. Why should i show compassion for someone who took someone else's brother/sister/mother/father. It literally pisses me off just thinking about it:mad:

cmr076 01-11-2008 01:58 AM

if someone is speeding and hits someone and kills them... are they murderers? do they deserve the death penalty? are they as bad as someone that puts a gun to your mother/sister/daughter/wifes head? i mean killing is killing right... speeding is breaking the law, so vehicular homicide is still homicide according to the law. i think some people are being a little narrow minded... i know with 100% certainty if someone killed a loved one of mine i still wouldn't want them to receive the death penalty. killing is wrong in my book, it does not matter if you do it, i do it, your retarded half cousin does it or its state sanctioned.

Keeper1343 01-11-2008 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cmr076 (Post 775963)
if someone is speeding and hits someone and kills them... are they murderers? do they deserve the death penalty? are they as bad as someone that puts a gun to your mother/sister/daughter/wifes head? i mean killing is killing right... speeding is breaking the law, so vehicular homicide is still homicide according to the law. i think some people are being a little narrow minded... i know with 100% certainty if someone killed a loved one of mine i still wouldn't want them to receive the death penalty. killing is wrong in my book, it does not matter if you do it, i do it, your retarded half cousin does it or its state sanctioned.

Um, i think your being narrow minded... And Vehicular Homicide would have to be on purpose. If they are speeding and hit someone, it would prob be called Vehicular Manslaughter or Involuntary Manslaughter.

cmr076 01-11-2008 04:08 AM

^ how am i being narrow minded? have you seen my posts in the thread so far? id say im the only one NOT being narrow minded, im open to ideas i just think torturing in the name of "justice" is defacing the name of justice completely.

thewake 01-11-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by zerioustt (Post 775545)
so they commit murder and you want them to drain society further? the taxes that the loved ones get to pay for the scumbag to live who killed their family member?? great idea..make them pay twice for their suffering.

Did I say they shouldn't be executed? I said that it should be done quickly, and quietly. I also said that the state should be free to change the method as better (easier, cheaper) ones come along. I don't see how causing EXTRA pain for the condemmed person gets anything? There is no real benefit to society in the EXTRA pain and suffering.

thewake 01-11-2008 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by where'smyturbo? (Post 775682)
they claim that lethal injection costs a lot of money. as much money as it would cost to keep them and feed them. (so they say)

my solution to that is cut their heads off, hang them, firing squad, etc. they don't cost much money. pay for the bullets, or the rope.

Most of the cost is in the appeals and court time. Not in the actual execution regardless of method.

CarbonIS 01-11-2008 11:36 AM

is it bad that everytime i see this thread name I think of Meth Injection? :mrgreen:


And my thoughts on the topic is....if they didn't want to be on death row, then maybe they shouldn't have killed someone.

importpower99 01-11-2008 01:11 PM

Ummm... for those of you who say eye for an eye or saying they should be killed in an odd way;
The 8th amendment protects against stupid ideas like those.
And for those of you who think they should be killed right away;
the 5th amendment protects against that.
Remember we're humans not primates!


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