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CleanNeon98 09-23-2007 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by doug (Post 671223)
For 500+ hp, and a 70,000 price tag for such a car.. i'd look past a few interior rattles. Hell, my 307whp 35k car has them.. and I look past them.
Yes but I dont think top gear was looking at it the same way as you are. If I was going to drop 70k on a car to drive every day, I would prefer that it didnt have rattles, but thats just me

doug 09-23-2007 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CleanNeon98 (Post 671234)
Yes but I dont think top gear was looking at it the same way as you are. If I was going to drop 70k on a car to drive every day, I would prefer that it didnt have rattles, but thats just me
That's why I said originally, it was my opinion. It still hasn't changed.

Dave 09-23-2007 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by doug (Post 671224)
No, not everyone can push 120k. That's why it's the poor mans sports car. I'd rather have a new Z06 over a posrche, but thats just my opinion.
poor people dont finance 70K sports cars

doug 09-23-2007 03:42 PM
hey.. i didnt label it that name.

06evors 09-23-2007 03:59 PM
My buddy dad bought an 07 Z. Mark up and all the taxes came out to 98k, ouch. Still more of a car than most.

xEJ20x 09-23-2007 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 671240)
poor people dont finance 70K sports cars
I've never heard of a Corvette on lay-a-way....unless it was a Hot Wheel at K-Mart.

Dave 09-23-2007 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by xEJ20x (Post 671336)
I've never heard of a Corvette on lay-a-way....unless it was a Hot Wheel at K-Mart.
pow pow power wheels?

05GT 09-23-2007 06:10 PM
I don't agree with the "If you can spend $70k on a car, then you can get one that's $120k." That's an extra $50k I don't think so. If I sold my Cobra or if I sold my G35 and my Jeep....or any combo of my cars....I could get a C6 Z. But I sure as hell wouldn't be able to swing anything near $120k.

Hell, I was going to buy a GT500 until they finally released the price and the horrid specs on the cars lol.

Raven18940 09-23-2007 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 05Accent (Post 670871)
this list is dumb..
The list is only the opinion of Jeremy Clarkson, and guess what, he doesn't care that you guys don't like it. He gets paid something like a million dollars a year to be opinionated about cars and stuff.

Evo8kid 09-23-2007 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CleanNeon98 (Post 671215)
The reason I think the z06 didnt make it to the top is because of a few things. Yes it has great performance, yes it has great price, but judging by what top gear said (and i dont agree or disagree with this because i dont know firsthand) its not a car you would want to drive every day because of its road manners. However, even with that drawback, I dont understand why it isnt on the list at all. From my experience, every american car ive known had some kind of quality issue. My friends 02 cavalier Z24, we opened the door and a quarter size piece of paint just chipped off for no reason, buddies 03 envoy, at least 6 trim pieces are already out of place, 95 mustang same trim issue, my old neon had rattle galore. I definately think the vette should be on the list because of its amazing performance, but not at #1 is for sure

ignorant and asinine statement. Your gonna assume that because it american made its garbage? i know what your gonna say, "well uh my friend said his crapalier fell apart and this envoy fell apart becuase no one took care of it, and my neon rattled cause my fart can had an exhaust leak". Its fiunny that the z06 thats sitting in my garage not only has amazing handling performance and all needed creature comforts (plus XM and navi) but it is perfectly capable of being driven everyday, only problem youll have is keeping your foot off the pedal. So what is the lesson we leaned today alex? Yes, your correct, speak what you know, not what you "heard".

This is no way me trying to say Z06 is best, if you think it is im sorry you feel that way. Watch the Z06 top gear for yourself, i think youll put it where it belongs.

Dave 09-23-2007 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 05GT (Post 671363)
I don't agree with the "If you can spend $70k on a car, then you can get one that's $120k." That's an extra $50k I don't think so. If I sold my Cobra or if I sold my G35 and my Jeep....or any combo of my cars....I could get a C6 Z. But I sure as hell wouldn't be able to swing anything near $120k.

Hell, I was going to buy a GT500 until they finally released the price and the horrid specs on the cars lol.
agreement, i was rather interested in a new charger until i saw the 4k curb weight and no manual trans option

Raven18940 09-23-2007 06:20 PM
The funny thing is that this video is really old, before the C6 even existed, and Jeremy Clarkson actually likes the C6 a lot.

05GT 09-23-2007 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 671373)
agreement, i was rather interested in a new charger until i saw the 4k curb weight and no manual trans option
Yep. And they really are not the least impressive to me...not even the SRT-8.

I personally think that is one of the biggest failures they did. Seriously, that 4 door behemoth is NOT a charger lol.

NOPSTNS 09-23-2007 06:36 PM
he also loved the rx8 and it didnt make the list, so uh, its just some guys opinion, and while i personally love top gear i have to constantly remind myself its just a show....meant for entertainment.

one episode pitted a greyhound vs a miata ...like wtf is that?
entertainment! it was funny as hell!

the "american cars are junk" battle is so played out. everyone loves whatever they want and the battle will neevr die bc of it. how many times u think im told a day that rotaries are junk? um, about 215, do i care? maybe a lil, but i still love them anyway....are they the best in the world? hell no, but who the hell cares....


like whatever u want. no matter the price tag

05GT 09-23-2007 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NOPSTNS (Post 671395)
the "american cars are junk" battle is so played out. everyone loves whatever they want and the battle will neevr die bc of it. how many times u think im told a day that rotaries are junk? um, about 215, do i care? maybe a lil, but i still love them anyway....are they the best in the world? hell no, but who the hell cares....


like whatever u want. no matter the price tag
Don't worry Frank...I think I hear the "It's still a Ford" comment just about as many times lol.

Raven18940 09-23-2007 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 05GT (Post 671398)
Don't worry Frank...I think I hear the "It's still a Ford" comment just about as many times lol.
How about it's "wrong wheel drive," really, I've never heard that one. :-p

05GT 09-23-2007 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Raven18940 (Post 671399)
How about it's "wrong wheel drive," really, I've never heard that one. :-p
What!!?? LOL. That's a new one to me. "Wrong wheel drive?" lol.

Raven18940 09-23-2007 06:54 PM
I actually thought it was really funny the first couple times too. :)

Dave 09-23-2007 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 05GT (Post 671394)
Yep. And they really are not the least impressive to me...not even the SRT-8.

I personally think that is one of the biggest failures they did. Seriously, that 4 door behemoth is NOT a charger lol.
this is another "muscle car" guy thing that kinda irks me. nobody ever remembers that the "good old chargers" were the third car to carry the name

which charger do you mean?

the first one? the charger 273?

http://images.moparmusclemagazine.co..._Side_View.jpg

or maybe the fastback coronet charger

http://www.texasacres.com/rides/Joyce.jpg

or the Iconic bullit/DOH charger

http://www.musclecargarage.com/Mikes68charger.JPG

how bout the wedge chargers?

http://mapleleafmopars.homestead.com/71chargerfs.jpg

Chardoba?

http://www.lhmopars.com/MOPAR_Ads/75chgrad.jpg

how bout some front wheel drive?

http://www.jjf2.com/cars-my/charger1.jpg

it may have four doors but the car itself has never really stuck to one form. it is afterall a name owned by chrysler

05GT 09-23-2007 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 671417)
this is another "muscle car" guy thing that kinda irks me. nobody ever remembers that the "good old chargers" were the third car to carry the name

which charger do you mean?



or the Iconic bullit/DOH charger

http://www.musclecargarage.com/Mikes68charger.JPG


it may have four doors but the car itself has never really stuck to one form. it is afterall a name owned by chrysler

True....I guess I always honestly think of the 1st 3 that you mentioned...and especially the Iconic one as pictured above.
But honestly, I don't think it looks ANYTHING like any of the previous models. lol. Oh well.


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