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Big_Jim 11-11-2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by asian jul (Post 1567087)
god people on this site are so ****ing ridiculous

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ASIAN JUL 11-11-2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Oakes (Post 1567103)
Including yourself.

Yeah.... no.

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Originally Posted by Snoozie (Post 1567104)
agreed. i just sit back and laugh. dummies.



ps-seeing you this weekend, right? :)

Yes madam :wink:
I'm bringing you a flower

Oakes 11-11-2009 04:43 PM

Yeah....yeah.

Meeshell 11-11-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by angdefeo (Post 1567067)
^ you are correct. it might be more difficult to get that these days given the economy. you might be able to get a construction or personal loan after you buy the place in order to fix it up. then after the rehab, you can refinance the place and convert it to a convetional mortgage.

Probably your best advice. In order to get a loan for a primary residence, it needs to be occupied and inhabitable. If there is no heat (another requirement normally) and no bathroom the appraiser your mortgage company uses will comment and during the underwriting process, your application will mostlikely get denied.

I'd say go for the personal or construction loan depending on what the mortgage company/bank that you're going to offers. Rates are tough right now so just make sure you do your research. ...just remember, property flipping is illegal in PA. If you run out of money from the personal loan it may end badly (ie. tons of missed mortgage payments, foreclosure...)

HickRocket1258 11-11-2009 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Meeshell (Post 1567140)
Proba my your best advice. In order to get a loan for a primary residence, it needs to be occupied and inhabitable. If there is no heat (another requirement normally) and no bathroom the appraiser your mortgage company uses will comment and during the underwriting process, your application will mostlikely get denied.

I'd say go for the personal or construction loan depending on what the mortgage company/bank that you're going to offers. Rates are tough right now so just make sure you do your research. ...just remember, property flipping is illegal in PA. If you run out of money from the personal loan it may end badly (ie. tons of missed mortgage payments, foreclosure...)

Thanks a lot Meesh. It's a plan of flipping a house, but more to live in. Needs renovation for sure, but the price for the house in the certain area is cheap, but with about $50k worth of renovations or a little more could look nice.

angdefeo 11-11-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HickRocket1258 (Post 1567126)
My dad was saying that it's a higher rate on the construction or personal loan until you can get a convential mortgage.

Yes, that is true. They can run 4-6% higher than a mortgage.

Grimm brought up the certificate of occupancy and its a valid point. I never had to deal with that issue when i bought and sold houses in the city of Philadelphia. It was easy to get a loan no matter what shape the house was in. I think that a certifacate of occupancy is needed if you want to rent the home or turn around and re-sell the place. But if you are buying it at sheriff sale or out of foreclosure the bank might allow you get a standard mortgage right off the bat.

ASIAN JUL 11-11-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Oakes (Post 1567139)
Yeah....yeah.

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh............... no.

Whatever, don't care what you say, you <3 me.

Oakes 11-11-2009 04:49 PM

Yeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh............ .

yeah.

jpalamar 11-11-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Meeshell (Post 1567140)
just remember, property flipping is illegal in PA.

Why is that?

russiankid 11-11-2009 04:51 PM

Touch screen phone + big thumbs= fail.

ASIAN JUL 11-11-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Oakes (Post 1567155)
Yeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh............ .

yeah.

It's okay I <3 you too:-p

sleeper15 11-11-2009 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jpalamar (Post 1567157)
Why is that?

it is? :eek:

HickRocket1258 11-11-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by angdefeo (Post 1567148)
Yes, that is true. They can run 4-6% higher than a mortgage.

Grimm brought up the certificate of occupancy and its a valid point. I never had to deal with that issue when i bought and sold houses in the city of Philadelphia. It was easy to get a loan no matter what shape the house was in. I think that a certifacate of occupancy is needed if you want to rent the home or turn around and re-sell the place. But if you are buying it at sheriff sale or out of foreclosure the bank might allow you get a standard mortgage right off the bat.

Is it when people are able to live in it eventually that you can get the conventional mortgage?

Meeshell 11-11-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HickRocket1258 (Post 1567146)
Thanks a lot Meesh. It's a plan of flipping a house, but more to live in. Needs renovation for sure, but the price for the house in the certain area is cheap, but with about $50k worth of renovations or a little more could look nice.

Flipping would be buying cheap, renovating and selling for an inflated profit. Since you're looking to live there, you're good. If you don't plan on living there during the renovations, you can try to get a regular home mortgage but with a different occupancy style...it all depends on the underwriting guidelines of the company you go to. Also sucks that it depends on the occupancy style of the home because I'm pretty sure the first time home buyer extension is only for primary residences.

And, no problem... Glad I know something from my day job:wink:

Oakes 11-11-2009 04:55 PM

I love no one.

ASIAN JUL 11-11-2009 04:57 PM

I don't think it's illegal as long as you're not charging ridiculous costs for the house once you've finished.. there's guidelines you have to follow to flip legally in any state.

HickRocket1258 11-11-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Meeshell (Post 1567167)
Flipping would be buying cheap, renovating and selling for an inflated profit. Since you're looking to live there, you're good. If you don't plan on living there during the renovations, you can try to get a regular home mortgage but with a different occupancy style...it all depends on the underwriting guidelines of the company you go to. Also sucks that it depends on the occupancy style of the home because I'm pretty sure the first time home buyer extension is only for primary residences.

And, no problem... Glad I know something from my day job:wink:

So even though I would be buying my first house there, just because it can't be I can't live in there at the time, means I won't qualify? That's great.

Oakes 11-11-2009 05:01 PM

I just realized I have the night off....what to do? I feel...........lost....

sike, I'll just play MW2

Meeshell 11-11-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jpalamar (Post 1567157)
Why is that?

Just a silly underwriting guideline PA follows. It's monitored by the FBI in most cases. It's based on fair prices and fraud for profit scams.

You're allowed to sell the house after renovating but you have to make your mortgage in full for a certain length of time. I can't think of the number of months though...

Oakes 11-11-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by meeshell (Post 1567175)
just a silly underwriting guideline pa follows. It's monitored by the fbi in most cases. It's based on fair prices and fraud for profit scams.

You're allowed to sell the house after renovating but you have to make your mortgage in full for a certain length of time. i can't think of the number of mo the though...

what!?!?!


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