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angdefeo 11-03-2009 04:21 PM

^ were you working when the last strike heppened? i am trying to figure out how many years ago it was.

Big_Jim 11-03-2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by angdefeo (Post 1559697)
^ were you working when the last strike heppened? i am trying to figure out how many years ago it was.

in 05 for a week, and before that was (pretty sure) 98 for 40 days.

angdefeo 11-03-2009 04:26 PM

I just heard and advert for this product on the radio. I thought it was a joke until I searched it and found it. Its for real, here is a link take a look:

http://www.freshballs.com/

jpalamar 11-03-2009 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by angdefeo (Post 1559701)
I just heard and advert for this product on the radio. I thought it was a joke until I searched it and found it. Its for real, here is a link take a look:

http://www.freshballs.com/

Nice find!

Oakes 11-03-2009 04:29 PM

I'm not friends with any of you, I wouldn't even give a second glance if you were laying in the street begging for food. ESPECIALLY Chaos.

99SL2_Modder 11-03-2009 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jpalamar (Post 1559694)
Then please edge-a-ma-kate me?

The problem is when you read that, it does not mention the other issues, specifically the outsourcing of work to out of state firms who are not responsible for the work they perform. This work is often substandard and needs to be redone once back in the region, very inefficient, and dangerous to you if the slipshod work fails to be detected. It is also not very efficient to need to pay twice for the same job.

This bargaining point would probably lower the raise demands and the healthcare input of the employees, but the media seems to have missed that part.

Also, I expect no sympathy while the media continues to show salary demands that high and the too low contribution to my healthcare. (Remember, only teachers, politicians, and CEOs deserve decent wages and benefits, nobody else.)

Seriously though, 3% raises and a 2% increase in healthcare contributions would be a fair compromise, which is a better deal than the local teachers will ever put on the table to a school board.

Hey remember, these busses/trains are what your kids ride on to and from school. Do you want poorly paid , poorly trained people to work on them and drive them and be responsible for their lives for 2 hours each day? Just throwing the same old line out there the teachers use.

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Originally Posted by angdefeo (Post 1559697)
^ were you working when the last strike heppened? i am trying to figure out how many years ago it was.

No, 2005.

99SL2_Modder 11-03-2009 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Big_Jim (Post 1559700)
in 05 for a week, and before that was (pretty sure) 98 for 40 days.

Yes. 01 there was no strike as a contract was signed the day the strike was to happen.

HickRocket1258 11-03-2009 04:37 PM

SL2 what do you do again?

jpalamar 11-03-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder (Post 1559708)
The problem is when you read that, it does not mention the other issues, specifically the outsourcing of work to out of state firms who are not responsible for the work they perform. This work is often substandard and needs to be redone once back in the region, very inefficient, and dangerous to you if the slipshod work fails to be detected. It is also not very efficient to need to pay twice for the same job.

Isn't that how must companies work? How is that any different then most companes. Ex. How many times have you ever called a 1-800 number whether its Dell, Sony, ect.. and had someone who could barely speak English on the phone. Outsourcing saves the company money in the end, or people wouldn't do it as they want to make money. If it didn't work, it wiouldn't be widely practiced.

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Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder (Post 1559708)
Also, I expect no sympathy while the media continues to show salary demands that high and the too low contribution to my healthcare. (Remember, only teachers, politicians, and CEOs deserve decent wages and benefits, nobody else.)

Seriously though, 3% raises and a 2% increase in healthcare contributions would be a fair compromise, which is a better deal than the local teachers will ever put on the table to a school board.

Have you seen that MOST companies aren't giving out raises. Many are even doing salary decreases so a cost of living raise isn't a reasonable expectation durring a recession.

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Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder (Post 1559708)
Hey remember, these busses/trains are what your kids ride on to and from school. Do you want poorly paid , poorly trained people to work on them and drive them and be responsible for their lives for 2 hours each day? Just throwing the same old line out there the teachers use.

I didn't grow up in Philly and currently don't live there. But form what I've seen, bus drivers anywhere are typically lower call people as it is an unskilled job. Plus we are still alive. Are people in Philadelphia different? NOPE!

Big_Jim 11-03-2009 04:39 PM

the strike in 98 sucked, i was in summer school that year, and had no way to get there lol

99SL2_Modder 11-03-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jpalamar (Post 1559719)
I didn't grow up in Philly and currently don't live there. But form what I've seen, bus drivers anywhere are typically lower call people as it is an unskilled job. Plus we are still alive. Are people in Philadelphia different? NOPE!

You're still focusing on drivers, and that's not the case here. EXPAND your knowledge!

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Originally Posted by HickRocket1258 (Post 1559717)
SL2 what do you do again?

Heavy diesel mechanic.

Roto 11-03-2009 04:42 PM

I hate Septa strikes... they bring the incapable drivers back on the roads...

99SL2_Modder 11-03-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Roto (Post 1559724)
I hate Septa strikes... they bring the incapable drivers back on the roads...

Oh yeah, because our operators are SOOO much better, lulz.

Had to say it before someone else did.

Roto 11-03-2009 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder (Post 1559725)
Oh yeah, because our operators are SOOO much better, lulz.

Had to say it before someone else did.

No, but I can anticipate a bus running a red light... I can't anticipate the 60 fools that take that bus daily that suddenly are driving during rush hour...

99SL2_Modder 11-03-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Roto (Post 1559728)
No, but I can anticipate a bus running a red light... I can't anticipate the 60 fools that take that bus daily that suddenly are driving during rush hour...

So true. Sometimes more than 60. And half their cars are spewing oil and smoke all over...

Roto 11-03-2009 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder (Post 1559730)
So true. Sometimes more than 60. And half their cars are spewing oil and smoke all over...

Yeah, I forget how much the Regional Rail carries in a single train, but damn, that's too many people driving..

angdefeo 11-03-2009 04:49 PM

I think that most of the people who use buses and subways on a daily basis dotn have cars.

99SL2_Modder 11-03-2009 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Roto (Post 1559732)
Yeah, I forget how much the Regional Rail carries in a single train, but damn, that's too many people driving..

RR isn't on strike. Different union and contract.

Roto 11-03-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder (Post 1559738)
RR isn't on strike. Different union and contract.

Blah, sorry, I don't follow what's what. To me Septa is one entity, but that jsut shows my ignorance about how it's run... all I know is that my commute is longer now.

99SL2_Modder 11-03-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Roto (Post 1559742)
Blah, sorry, I don't follow what's what. To me Septa is one entity, but that jsut shows my ignorance about how it's run... all I know is that my commute is longer now.

It has like 7 different unions, lol.


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