yea, still needs a power rack and pinion and the tcase leaks a little but other than that it's good to go. i've been pushing the sebring a lot though for gas purposes. you mightve seen it around, blue sebring, tinted windows, you can hear the bass coming miles away.

ok, since i havent been on here for like a day...
Congrats Ricky on the car, i cant wait to see it. I know how much uve wanted this car.

I'm in Florida wearing shorts and a t-shirt bitche$!!! HA!!!!!!

The rest of us are in Jersey wearing pants and sweatshirts/jackets (except Chris and Tom probably have t-shirts on) and freezing out asses off... Cock.

SUCKERS! See you guys Tuesday with pants, sweatshirt, coat, and a big @ss frown on!

Thefro...how much boost do you have to run through an sr20 to get to the 200whp mark...not to brag but my car can do it with boltons on under 10psi of boost, and at the same time I raced a MK4 GTI some time ago running an intake, dp, exhaust, clutch, chip, and 16psi and I beat him by...2 cars or so...im actually asking a serious question.

Why do some of the OEM turbo motors have to run such high boost to get power...even your bro's MR2, yes its very quick and beat me but my car has an intake and 9psi, he has intake, open exhaust, and 15psi....why is there such a gap...or can anyone explain this..I know its down to how the engine is tuned from factory and aftermarket and such but I want to know more.

Turbo size/engine/etc matters. PSI is a meaningless number. It's just a measure of pressure. More PSI than another setup != more power. That would be like saying my car should be faster than a supra because the motor has more liters :roll:

What you have to look at is PSI in relation to volume. You could have 10 psi in a 1 cubic foot box or 5 psi in a 2 cubic foot box and they both essentially have the same amount of air in them. Then you also have to look at a motors compression, if two motors with the same amount of boost i.e. 7lbs on an SR20 and one has 8:1 compression and one has 9:1 compression the one with 9:1 compression will have more power.

The the biggest thing is the tune and maximizing an engines efficiency. You can throw as much boost as you want at any car in any situation and if you can't give it enough fuel then you won't make enough power.

Then there's also things like Bore, Stroke and displacement. Higher displacement usually means more power because you have a larger combustion area. A short stroke engine will rev higher and faster because it has less distance to travel per one revolution of the crank but a longer stroke will usually make more torque.

In the case of SR20DET's and KA24DET's the big difference is the stroke and the displacement. The KA has a .4 litres of displacement on the SR which means more often than not when the more power when comparably built and tuned. Also the KA has a longer stroke than the SR which means that it should make more torque but won't rev as high or as fast as the shorter stroke SR. The SR's Shorter Stroke and Higher Revs usually are a good combination for great top end power but they usually lack on low end torque.

That being said that's just the tip of the engine iceberg so to speak. If you really want to learn more than just read and read. I myself am no expert on the subject but this is just my understanding on the subject. If you want to talk to me about it more then hit me up at one of the meets and I can explain some of it a little better.

And Here's a little something I usually go by when I'm thinking about motors and displacement and Boost. Most Racing Series with a Displacement limit go similar to this, NA gets a x1 for displacement, Boosted (Turbo'ed or Supercharged) get a ~x2 and Rotary (wankel) Engines like Rx-7's get a ~x2 to there displacement if they're NA and a ~x4 if they're boosted. I may have messed up on the numbers for rotaries it's been a while

my head just exploded....

Thanks for the explain, I'll have to talk to you at this weeks or next week's meet (might not be out on Tuesday). I just thought it was funny when VW guys think they are tough stuff and have to run full bolt-ons and 15-20psi to keep up with a homo car :lol:

Lol that's cuz a lot of VDub guys have tiny engines like 1.6L, 1.8L and 2.0L so it take a lot of boost to get them to make power.

I have a 1.8L :lol:

in a car that weighs a LOT less..your cars not as fast as you think it is..

its quick, for a quiet, calm, sane, relaxed, stock DD

ya it is...but its unfair to compare a miata with 9 PSI to a MK4 GTI that weighs almost 1000 pounds more

hahaha, how is that unfair. my car weighs 2000lbs, so its unfair for me to race anyone that weighs more then that. he picked the platform he liked, and a gti owner picked the platform they wanted. every car has its pros and cons.

:roll:, still sore that I don't like the body kit? The point was that the VW guys have to run that much more boost to make the same power...my buddy's old GTI had intake dp exhaust chip and held 15psi...he himself said it was around 200whp.

Keep on hatin.

im not hating. I like your car....and i dont give a fuk if u dont like the style of my car. Its just funny that you compare your car to a completely different kind of vehicle. Ofcourse the VW has to run more boost to make the same power, it got 1000 more pounds to push through FWD. Your cars quick, any miata over 150 HP is.

Weight has nothing to do with actual horsepower. Point is:

He made with intake, full exhaust, 15psi, and a chip (tune) as he said ~200whp
MSM with intake, full exhaust, 15psi and a tune ~250whp...consistently

Weight is a factor, but its not what I meant to show...its the engine itself.

i'm kinda lost don't you both have miatas?