mossberg?

did u sell your hk?

still considering my offer? :mrgreen:

im dead serious about buying it next october if u still have it.
what reason are you selling it for?

Somebody else bought the $450 HK that I was referring to. I am considering selling my USP compact .45 get a full size USP though.


Goodfella, what are the details on that thing? :cool:

Price on your USP?

Let me know if you do :mrgreen:

Its nothing special. Mossberg 500 12ga with a 18.5" barrel.

My USP compact would be over $600 if I sold it. It's got a really low round count, and it's got relatively brand new night sights on it ($100+), not to mention that the compact .45's are hard to find! I just use it for my home defense and feel that the full size wouldn't hurt to have, or it's just me wanting something different.

Are you planning on pimping that 500 out? Or does jersey have laws against making the shotgun functional.....errrr, scary looking?

Oh, and this weekend I'll be posting some pictures of something else.

Whats a good place to find stuff for it? I tried MidwayUSA.com but they seem to really only stock hunting crap. Im looking for a side saddle, sling, tac light, and some night sights.

question for any of you gun nutz.

what would be a good gun to carry?

gunbroker.com has good new prices for all that stuff, and if you go to ar15.com in the equipment exchange, there are always great used prices on guns and parts.

Open carry? Or do you have your CCW permit? I'm happy with my GLOCK 26 for concealed, but there are other "smaller" choices like a S&W hammerless air-lites, or most 3" barrel revolvers, keltec has some decent choices, any sub compact semi-auto, etc.. It really just depends on what you are comfortable with, and are good with.

I'm officially a gun owner :) :cool:

I just picked this up on saturday and put about 150 rounds thru it. It's a S&W .40. Here are some quick pictures I took of it.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9351/img65672ys1.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8905/img65652ya2.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5910/img65682mo1.jpg

I think once I get used to this gun I may sell it and get a springfield XD9 because I absolutely love those guns. I originally wanted a 9mm but I couldn't pass up the deal on this .40

the one u shoot most comfortably

Well congratulations on your first purchase! Just remember that not all guns jam up every other mag :lol: Damn Sigmas! As your first gun, well, now second, you really should consider a 9mm. It's nice and cheap ammo to practice with!

thanks :)

does that mean my gun will jam? maybe I didn't read that right :)

Well Sigmas are cheap shooters, and the price reflects the reliability. It might, or might not be a jam-o-matic, but if it is, just remember that it's not too terribly uncommon!

My current toys:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p.../IHeartJoe.jpg

Next up is an AR15 and a spare 9mm upper reciever.

I'll probably end up selling the Mossberg shortly, but it's nice to have around the house.

The HK USP .40 is my carry, and the Sig is my 9mm plinker for the range. I may sell the Sig and pick up another HK (9mm or .40 tactical) for the range instead.

As for target ammo, the cheap-o Winchester white box stuff at Walmart is okay, but DIRRRRTTTYYY. Plan on cleaning your gun immediately after the range. They sometimes have Blazers there for a decent price as well (compared to buying at the local range, etc.).

For carry, I typically use the SXTs or Hydro Shoks.

I can't tell, what kind of sig is it?

It's a nice start!



(January is almost here! That means another gun....FS2000 maybe? Or Socom II/M1a?)

Sig Pro SP2009.

my dream gun
i doubt this gun ever jammed
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Thursday, December 20, 2007

Gun Owners of America and its supporters took a knife in the back yesterday, as Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) out-smarted his congressional opposition into agreeing on a so-called "compromise" on HR 2640 -- a bill which now goes to the President's desk.

The bill -- known as the Veterans Disarmament Act to its opponents -- is being praised by the National Rifle Association and the Brady Campaign.

The Brady Bunch crowed "Victory! U.S. Congress Strengthens Brady Background Check System." The NRA stated that last minute changes to the McCarthy bill made a "good bill even better [and that] the end product is a win for American gun owners."

But Gun Owners of America has issued public statements decrying this legislation.

The core of the bill's problems is section 101(c)(1)(C), which makes you a "prohibited person" on the basis of a "medical finding of disability," so long as a veteran had an "opportunity" for some sort of "hearing" before some "lawful authority" (other than a court). Presumably, this "lawful authority" could even be the psychiatrist himself.

Note that unlike with an accused murderer, the hearing doesn't have to occur. The "lawful authority" doesn't have to be unbiased. The veteran is not necessarily entitled to an attorney -- much less an attorney financed by the government.

So what do the proponents have to say about this?

ARGUMENT: The Veterans Disarmament Act creates new avenues for prohibited persons to seek restoration of their gun rights.

ANSWER: What the bill does is to lock in -- statutorily -- huge numbers of additional law-abiding Americans who will now be denied the right to own a firearm.

And then it "graciously" allows these newly disarmed Americans to spend tens of thousands of dollars for a long-shot chance to regain the gun rights this very bill takes away from them.

More to the point, what minimal gains were granted by the "right hand" are taken away by the "left." Section 105 provides a process for some Americans diagnosed with so-called mental disabilities to get their rights restored in the state where they live. But then, in subsection (a)(2), the bill stipulates that such relief may occur only if "the person will not be likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety and that the GRANTING OF THE RELIEF WOULD NOT BE CONTRARY TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST." (Emphasis added.)

Um, doesn't this language sound similar to those state codes (like California's) that have "may issue" concealed carry laws -- where citizens "technically" have the right to carry, but state law only says that sheriffs MAY ISSUE them a permit to carry? When given such leeway, those sheriffs usually don't grant the permits!

Prediction: liberal states -- the same states that took these people's rights away -- will treat almost every person who has been illegitimately denied as a danger to society and claim that granting relief would be "contrary to the public interest."

Let's make one thing clear: the efforts begun during the Clinton Presidency to disarm battle-scarred veterans -- promoted by the Brady Anti-Gun Campaign -- is illegal and morally reprehensible.

But section 101(c)(1)(C) of HR 2640 would rubber-stamp those illegal actions. Over 140,000 law-abiding veterans would be statutorily barred from possessing firearms.

True, they can hire a lawyer and beg the agency that took their rights away to voluntarily give them back. But the agency doesn't have to do anything but sit on its hands. And, after 365 days of inaction, guess what happens? The newly disarmed veteran can spend thousands of additional dollars to sue. And, as the plaintiff, the wrongly disarmed veteran has the burden of proof.

Language proposed by GOA would have automatically restored a veteran's gun rights if the agency sat on its hands for a year. Unfortunately, the GOA amendment was not included.

The Veterans Disarmament Act passed the Senate and the House yesterday -- both times WITHOUT A RECORDED VOTE. That is, the bill passed by Unanimous Consent, and was then transmitted to the White House.

Long-time GOA activists will remember that a similar "compromise" deal helped the original Brady Law get passed. In 1993, there were only two or three senators on the floor of that chamber who used a Unanimous Consent agreement (with no recorded vote) to send the Brady bill to President Clinton -- at a time when most legislators had already left town for their Thanksgiving Break.

Gun owners can go to http://www.gunowners.org/news/nws9402.htm to read about how this betrayal occurred 14 years ago.

With your help, Gun Owners of America has done a yeoman's job of fighting gun control over the years, considering the limited resources that we have. Together, we were able to buck the Brady Campaign/NRA coalition in 1999 (after the Columbine massacre) and were able to defeat the gun control that was proposed in the wake of that shooting.

Yesterday, we were not so lucky. But we are not going to go away. GOA wants to repeal the gun-free zones that disarm law-abiding Americans and repeal the other gun restrictions that are on the books. That is the answer to Virginia Tech. Unfortunately, the House and Senate chose the path of imposing more gun control.

So our appeal to you is this -- please help us to grow this coming year. Please help us to get more members and activists. If you add $10 to your membership renewal this year, we can reach new gun owners in the mail and tell them about GOA.

Please urge your friends to join GOA... and, at the very least, make sure they sign up for our free e-mail alerts so that we can mobilize more gun owners than ever before!


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It's a new year, so naturally, it's time for a new gun.


I just bought this... (9mm 100round drum with clear back)

http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/09...x677096062.jpg

http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/09...x677096031.jpg

To eventually finish building an AR pistol that will look like this....

http://www.tampabayshooting.com/imag...ke/Profile.JPG

plus an eotech, and eventually a suppressor. Just because. This will be my ONLY gun for this year, as I really need to buy my own shack! 9mm's are fun and...CHEAP to shoot, and ar pistols are even more fun, together=win :) .