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SvicksTc 09-30-2011 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Brian~ (Post 2051186)
Well, I'm def not trained to properly draw and rack on command, so I guess I have no choice to carry again with one in the chamber.

Unless I just stop carrying all together, which is always an option.

If you dont feel comfortable and confident in carrying, it's something i strongly recommend you think about, or train everyday and train at the range as much as you can.

When I first started carrying, in the months before all i did was read, read, read...and then as I began to carry I was missing one HUGE element (proficient training) Now here where things tend to get expensive, but you can train for free everyday at home. I began buying videos, going to courses to learn the fundamentals of weapon manipulation and drawing from CC. I train everyday at home drawing, and press check every time i leave my home. I have learned to build trainings into my day.

Then at the range I began reading about drills to perform and began duplicating drills from the courses. Additionally, at the range i can add that dynamic element into my training, because when SHTF! I dont think you're just going to be standing there.

If you do not feel confident in knowing you can effectively draw your weapon and employ it without being a liability to others and actually an asset then one should not carry. If you had to draw your weapon and result to deadly force, expect to see trail to defend yourself more. Now IF you were to hit bystanders your "flyiers" those "liabilities" will get you in a bad spot these days.

Brian, I am not making any gesture or remark at you, I am just stating this in general to anyone!!!!!!

It's a huge responsibility, and part of that responsibility is to take it upon yourself and maintain that responsibility to the highest level. This requires reading of the statues, and physically weapon manipulation and employment training.

~Brian~ 09-30-2011 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by drifty240 (Post 2051204)
Package deal - $700 obo

Sig 229 40 s&w :


1. green duracoated slide
2. not sure about round count
3. 2 facotry mags and 3 aftermarket mags
4. TRUGLO Brite Sites installed / (factory sites included)
5. Atomic Dog Kydex holster /od green

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4. Piston AR (can add cash my side)


We can't openly sell guns on the forum... you can get banned for it.

Save it for PM only.

~Brian~ 09-30-2011 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SvicksTc (Post 2051208)
If you dont feel comfortable and confident in carrying, it's something i strongly recommend you think about, or train everyday and train at the range as much as you can.

When I first started carrying, in the months before all i did was read, read, read...and then as I began to carry I was missing one HUGE element (proficient training) Now here where things tend to get expensive, but you can train for free everyday at home. I began buying videos, going to courses to learn the fundamentals of weapon manipulation and drawing from CC. I train everyday at home drawing, and press check every time i leave my home. I have learned to build trainings into my day.

Then at the range I began reading about drills to perform and began duplicating drills from the courses. Additionally, at the range i can add that dynamic element into my training, because when SHTF! I dont think you're just going to be standing there.

If you do not feel confident in knowing you can effectively draw your weapon and employ it without being a liability to others and actually an asset then one should not carry. If you had to draw your weapon and result to deadly force, expect to see trail to defend yourself more. Now IF you were to hit bystanders your "flyiers" those "liabilities" will get you in a bad spot these days.

Brian, I am not making any gesture or remark at you, I am just stating this in general to anyone!!!!!!

It's a huge responsibility, and part of that responsibility is to take it upon yourself and maintain that responsibility to the highest level. This requires reading of the statues, and physically weapon manipulation and employment training.


I understand what you are saying.

I guess I came off the wrong way... It's not that I'm doubtful of my abilities to carry, I'm just not comfortable yet carrying with one in the chamber.

I know my gun very well and am confidant in my ability to perform under stress, I just need to get used to carrying a loaded weapon again after the incident.

blkZ06 09-30-2011 12:45 AM

The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times is because it is impossible to have two in

Wasted movement is wasted time

drifty240 09-30-2011 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Brian~ (Post 2051209)
We can't openly sell guns on the forum... you can get banned for it.

Save it for PM only.

Sorry, i thought i have seen them in here before .............

SvicksTc 09-30-2011 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Brian~ (Post 2051213)
I understand what you are saying.

I guess I came off the wrong way... It's not that I'm doubtful of my abilities to carry, I'm just not comfortable yet carrying with one in the chamber.

I know my gun very well and am confidant in my ability to perform under stress, I just need to get used to carrying a loaded weapon again after the incident.

I was not doubting you, like i said, I was just stating that in general. Recently a lot of new LTCF holders have chimed in and like I said I thought I was prepared through reading and frequent range trips with no "real" training through courses and drills, I was more of a liability than an asset...

Fortunately it didnt take to long to recognize the missing element and like i said i continue to train everyday...

Munky 09-30-2011 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blkZ06 (Post 2051217)
The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times is because it is impossible to have two in

Wasted movement is wasted time

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drifty240 09-30-2011 01:10 AM

if you don't carry one in chamber you might as well be carrying a brick. WHat gun did you have an AD with? SA or DA , maybe you should switch to DA or safe action .

cmr076 09-30-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by blkZ06 (Post 2051217)
The only reason I have one in the chamber at all times is because it is impossible to have two in

Wasted movement is wasted time

lol I just pictured you sitting on your couch trying to jam two rounds in the chamber of your EDC.

ASIAN JUL 09-30-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Munky (Post 2051201)
What were you waiting for? A written invitation??? OH WAIT!!! :rofl:

I have to wait until the sheriff's office is open at a time that I can pick it up without missing work. They are open the first Saturday of every month and stay open late on the second Monday of every month. Hence my plans of going on Saturday :cyberguy:

~Brian~ 09-30-2011 12:14 PM

So back to my original question... any suggestions for affordable training/retention courses?

PhillyLS1 09-30-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Brian~ (Post 2051381)
So back to my original question... any suggestions for affordable training/retention courses?

I'm prior military and work in defense as a civilian. If you ever want a good training course, and want to make a weekend out of it... there are some excellent places in Northern VA. And cheap too.

~Brian~ 09-30-2011 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyLS1 (Post 2051387)
I'm prior military and work in defense as a civilian. If you ever want a good training course, and want to make a weekend out of it... there are some excellent places in Northern VA. And cheap too.

That might actually work... I have a good friend who lives in Arlington... I could come down for the weekend and hit up those classes..

~Brian~ 09-30-2011 02:09 PM

Well, I decided to get back on the horse..

Just put a round in the chamber and tucked the gun into my holster. Headed out to pick up Transformers 3.

cmr076 09-30-2011 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Brian~ (Post 2051447)
Well, I decided to get back on the horse..

Just put a round in the chamber and tucked the gun into my holster. Headed out to pick up Transformers 3.

if your not ready PLEASE do not carry cond. 1... dont listen to us internet jackasses its your life and YOU that is going to have to deal with the consequences if you do something due to NOT being ready to carry as such

~Brian~ 09-30-2011 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cmr076 (Post 2051523)
if your not ready PLEASE do not carry cond. 1... dont listen to us internet jackasses its your life and YOU that is going to have to deal with the consequences if you do something due to NOT being ready to carry as such

Do you not think I realize that? I would NEVER change my mind about something this important simply because you guys giving me a hard time... come on... give me more credit than that.

Not possessing the knowledge/ ability to safely handle a firearm and being scared after a serious accident are two different things. I am just as capable now as I was then; the knowledge hasn't disappeared just because I chose to stop carrying with one in the chamber.

I told all of you a long time ago that it was going to take a while for me to restore my confidence after the accident. Carrying a loaded weapon that your not comfortable with is dangerous too. So in addition to adding extra steps to ensure safety, I made the decision to NOT carry with one in the chamber until I felt comfortable with my gun again.

I am personally responsible for whatever happens with that firearm. The accident weights heavily on me EVERY SINGLE TIME I pick up my gun, whether it's loaded or not. Somebody could have been hurt due to my carelessness and I swore to myself that it would never happen again.

I feel that I made a responsible decision to carry the way that I have over the last several months. My only other choice would to have to stop carrying completely, but honestly, I think that would have done more harm than good.

So again, no, I did not chamber a round today because I felt compeled to by all of your remarks. Those posts did, however, make me realize that I have let enough time pass since the accident and that the ONLY way to get comfortable, just like when we all first started carrying, is to JUST DO IT. Like I said, the knowledge is still there, it's just a matter of overcoming the anxiety.

In an effort to increase my knowledge of safety procedures, I am actively seeking to take training courses.

I undertand that all of your posts have been out of concern for my general well being and I do appreciate it. If you really want to help me though, please provide recommendations for safety/training/retention courses that I can take.

Munky 10-01-2011 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cmr076 (Post 2051523)
if your not ready PLEASE do not carry cond. 1... dont listen to us internet jackasses its your life and YOU that is going to have to deal with the consequences if you do something due to NOT being ready to carry as such

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!! Shut up!!! We could have totally had some more **** to talk for at least another month or so.:roll:





















I KEED I KEED!!! Please for the love of all that is holy...BE CAREFUL!!!

~Brian~ 10-01-2011 11:26 AM

lol, thanks

No need to worry though, I will be fine. And so will everybody else. haha

DPancoast 10-01-2011 02:19 PM

So I'm a long time reader of this thread, but now I have a question I need your opinions on.

My job has a rule in the handbook that no firearms are permitted on the property/in the building.

I can understand and do not want to argue it if it's that cut and dry. However now that I have had my ltcf and am doing some shopping around , is there anything I can do besides not telling my job I have the gun in my vehicle? Or do I just have to live with it and leave my (future) gun at home every day until I get home?

I feel that is a personal safety risk for me because well, most of my incidents with aggression from other drivers have happened on the road while driving. And god forbid it happens going to or from work and deadly force would be needed, I'd be sol I guess?

Thoughts? I can get the exact wording if needed to discuss but from what I understand from my superiors, the firearm is not allowed on company property AT ALL.

~Brian~ 10-01-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DPancoast (Post 2051805)
So I'm a long time reader of this thread, but now I have a question I need your opinions on.

My job has a rule in the handbook that no firearms are permitted on the property/in the building.

I can understand and do not want to argue it if it's that cut and dry. However now that I have had my ltcf and am doing some shopping around , is there anything I can do besides not telling my job I have the gun in my vehicle? Or do I just have to live with it and leave my (future) gun at home every day until I get home?

I feel that is a personal safety risk for me because well, most of my incidents with aggression from other drivers have happened on the road while driving. And god forbid it happens going to or from work and deadly force would be needed, I'd be sol I guess?

Thoughts? I can get the exact wording if needed to discuss but from what I understand from my superiors, the firearm is not allowed on company property AT ALL.




As you may already know, the LTCF allows you to carry just about anywhere in the state. But if an establishment, whether it be an employeer, bar, or whatever has made it clear that firearms are not welcome on the premis and you choose to carry on their property despite this rule, you could be subject to legal action.

Now if feel that your personal safety is at risk every time you go to work and you truly believe that having a firearm on your person would help, then you should either: A- have a conversation with your employeer about this situation, or B- find another job.

Any gun owner on this site will tell you that using a firearm is the last ditch effort to avoid personal harm and that just about any measures should be taken to avoid finding yourself in such a situation.

Hope that helps! :)

*edit- What do you do for work?


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