What do you guys think if the ruger sr9?
 

Anyone have any experience or opinions on the Ruger sr9?

I recently got my LTCF and I am looking for a decent carry gun with a max budget of $650.

check out the m&p series, im not really a fan of rugers, but thats just me.

Here's a little High-speed video my buddy and i made with my S&W 500:

http://www.break.com/index/watermelo...ow-motion.html

If you watch closely you can see the bullet, and if you want to see it easier crank the resolution up and you can slow down the video an additional 50% in the video options.

A whole bunch of thangs I want!!!:mad:

So if you think the Walther P22 is a little small for a home defense/CC weapon, what would you suggest? This is my first hand gun, and ide like something thats not to large. I like the feel and look of the P22, but a 9MM may suit my needs better. Besides the Glock 17/19, what should I look at? I also like the price of the P22, or something around $4-500. I also very much like this Walther. Feedback?
http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/w...06&isFirearm=Y

for HD I wouldn't go with anything smaller than a 9mm. Glock 17/19/26 are all great choices, (i'm a little biased towards glocks :mrgreen: ) but really any 9mm will do just fine. There are many nice 9mm pistols to choose from. If I were you I'd go to cabelas or army navy or something and just check them all out, hold them etc. It's also the most affordable gun to practice with.

I do like the glock 26, though I dont like not having a safety switch. As my first hand gun, Ide kind of like to have a solid safety on my hand gun. I know most people dont like a safety switch on a pistol that is being used for CC..but this will rarely be used for CC. It will be used more for the range and home protection. Maybe im being a pu$$y..I dont know.

Glocks have internal safeties as well as their safe action trigger. I carry a G19 daily now for close to 8 years and have yet to have the gun mysteriously go off on me. I also carry a Kimber UCII which does have an external safety switch on it (which I do engage when carrying) but that's just out of habit not that I think I will shoot myself while drawing or reholstering.

I also carry a G19 (my first handgun too), but if you like the look and feel the of the Walther P22, why dont you look at the Walther P99 subcompact?

Thats a little out of my price range. I like the Walther PK380, but everyone says to go with a 9mm. I guess im going to keep looking around. I may even go to a gun store and check some more out in person...obviously the best thing to do. The glock 26 is a nice gun, no doubt. I guess the trigger safety doesnt bother me to much. I know they are hella reliable and have tons of aftermarket parts. I just want to explore all of my options, before I jump on the Glock wagon.

well you wont be disappointed on the Glock wagon :) and a used P99 can be found for a good deal

there is also the Springfield XD line of guns to look into

the 380 IS a 9mm technically (9x17) compared to the 9mm luger which is a 9x19. the 380 (or 9x17) is a necked down low power 9mm luger

You're not being a pussy, you just need to learn about and get comfortable with a few different kinds of guns.


For everyday carry, home defense, or even just a range toy - learn how to handle a gun properly from the start without a safety. If you choose to add one later (you probably won't), buy a different gun with a safety.

External safeties are for 1911s - they're made to be carried in condition 1, "cocked and locked" (Munky's Kimber for example). That's because of their design, being SAO. In my opinion, external safeties have absolutely no business being on any non-1911 gun, especially on someone's first gun or one that they're learning on. Safeties do nothing but breed bad gun handling habits. The idea of "nah, it's cool the safety is on" is a very dangerous one. Even if you're a good shooter and you're mostly good about general safety when handling the gun, you'll always rely on the safety like a crutch in some way or another.

No matter whether the gun is doing nothing but sitting around at home or if you're carrying it, it's always going to be in a holster anyway unless you're cleaning it or messing with it (with no ammo in sight). When the gun leaves the holster, your trigger finger discipline is good enough that you never put the finger inside the trigger guard anyway, so there's no need for a safety at all. You'll realize that your trigger finger is the only safety you need. "Keep your booger-hook off the bang-switch" is what my dad loves to say.

For those people who say having a safety is a good backup for redundancy as a 'just in case', or that it somehow makes the gun safer at all - I say those people have no business handling guns at all. If you can't keep your finger outside the trigger guard until you're ready to destroy something then you need to reevaluate your thoughts on keeping a gun around.

As for caliber, no matter what you choose, you need to get a self defense caliber. .380/.38 is the smallest (I should say 'weakest') acceptable caliber for SD and that's only because it allows you to carry a very small gun like a P238, P380, LCP/LCR, P3AT, etc. .357Sig, 9mm, .40S&W, .45ACP are all relatively equal and should be considered for SD use. Never a .22... ever. Cost should never be a factor. For the price of a .22, you can always buy a 9mm.

About calibers for self defense, read this: http://www.firearmstactical.com/pdf/fbi-hwfe.pdf

Springfield XD and XDM's all suck :-p

This ^^^ ........... great advice

you forgot 10mm assclown.. the ultimate defensive round.

Wow thanks a lot DC2.2GSR! Great view point and great advice. Ive been reading a lot and doing as much research as I can.

The Glock 26 has no accessory rail, which I dont like. I'de like to have the option of throwing on a light/laser system. I have also read that the Walther pk380 has a cheaper build and isnt very accurate. It seems like the Glock 19 and XDM are the two im focused on most as of now.

I managed to get my hands on an XDM 9 here in NJ, and i gotta say i'm really happy with it. It's comfortable, easy to clean, and very accurate, i've put maybe 1000 rounds through it everything ranging from cheap wolf to half-way decent Winchester ammo, hasn't jammed once. It also comes with a fair amount of nice accessories, and a pretty nice case.

Ive read nothing but good about the XDM series! thanks.

you can get a crimson trace or lasermax for the glock if you hell bent on having a laser