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DC2.2GSR 12-19-2010 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Munky (Post 1876556)
Surprising to hear you don't like your P229. I have the same one and I absolutely love shooting it. Even more so than my Kimber or Glock. The only thing I don't like about it is the weight which is why I never carry it. Everyone that I have let shoot it also says it's very smooth and loves it as well. Hopefully you get used to it and don't wind up selling it. But if you do I'll considering buying that holster off of you. :thumbup:

It's weird.. I have a lot of gripes with it in stock form as I posted above, but I really like it though overall. I probably won't end up selling it. I really don't mind the weight at all. It fits about 80% of the proper way into the holster for my M&P but the trigger isn't completely covered so I loaded a full mag with an empty chamber and wore it around the house for a while and the weight isn't really an issue. My belt just really sucks so it sags a bit and the holster isn't nearly as secure as I'd like even for my M&P so it flops a bit but it's not bad.

It's solid and is very accurate.. my first magazine was a full 13 shots in a three inch circle right where I as aiming, but that was shooting sort of slow. When I tried to shoot quicker I was a little sloppier. The first shot in DA followed quickly by a SA shot is real strange. I caused about 10 FTE because of it.. I must have limp wristed it or something because each FTE was after the second shot which is the lighter pull. I was trying to compensate somewhere. I got that figured out right away though and then it was fine.

I need a set of the Hogue slim aluminum grips like my friend's 220 Carry Elite Dark and I'll be set I think. That gun is a night-and-day difference from mine. I guess I just figured all Sigs are created (sort of) equally, but just came in different sizes. :o

cmr076 12-19-2010 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR (Post 1876528)
Dave, you asked about which guys were the a-holes and I wasn't sure, but I looked today and the guy who has "Acci" on his shirt is the really cool one. Not sure if that's his name or what, but he has been cool with me every time including today.

acci is a good guy... swears by 357sig though haha. not sure if you know anything about motorcycles but "acci" is short for "Ferracci" :wink: CP is his part time gig for fun!

anyways, im glad you had a good time and a better experience, now i just have to get over there i haven't shot in like 2 weeks

::edit:: welcome to the dark side, these sigs are seriously addicting, i have my next 2 picked out. as far as the FTE on your 229, the gun may need to be broken in based on the condition you said it was in.. I would shoot 250-350 rds. of ball ammo through it before you carry or feed HP's to her, I have also found that sig LOVE to be lubed well. I carry my 238 every day now and was having the same FTE issues until I broke her in properly and kept her really really well oiled.

(or you could just be limp wrist-ing it like a little girl)

PhillySVT 12-19-2010 01:29 PM

A little HK porn....Hk51 was just recieved this week. Thanks Jordan!
Hk51 w registered sear, HK UMP SBR clone, & a real HKUSP two-tone Match (Lara Croft gun)
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8828/img0917ea.jpg

My brother just recieved his tromix. He offered it to me while it was being transferred to our LLC becuase he was having second thoughts. It was an impulse buy (Great deal under dealer cost NIB) and he knew I wanted one. I wish I would have told him I'd take it.....this thing is F-ing sweet!!!! It has every option offered.

Here you go... 12 guage semi shotgun with a 10 round mag and a 20 round drum.
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/9097/img0918u.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2631/img0919sv.jpg
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1015/img0920vr.jpg
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8049/img0926q.jpg
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7546/img0923bh.jpg

cmr076 12-19-2010 03:32 PM

^ NICE!

I have a G36 in .45 ACP I am looking to sell cheap, its on PAFOA but if anyone on here wants it i am looking for $400 (i just added trijicon nite site 2 months ago)

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...36together.jpg

http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...t/g36apart.jpg

DC2.2GSR 12-19-2010 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cmr076 (Post 1876665)
acci is a good guy... swears by 357sig though haha. not sure if you know anything about motorcycles but "acci" is short for "Ferracci" :wink: CP is his part time gig for fun!

anyways, im glad you had a good time and a better experience, now i just have to get over there i haven't shot in like 2 weeks

::edit:: welcome to the dark side, these sigs are seriously addicting, i have my next 2 picked out. as far as the FTE on your 229, the gun may need to be broken in based on the condition you said it was in.. I would shoot 250-350 rds. of ball ammo through it before you carry or feed HP's to her, I have also found that sig LOVE to be lubed well. I carry my 238 every day now and was having the same FTE issues until I broke her in properly and kept her really really well oiled.

(or you could just be limp wrist-ing it like a little girl)

hahaha yep, I'm just a little girl. I seriously felt like that after it jammed up on me. It took a second to register and then I just stared at it like "lol so that's a 'limp-wrist' huh?" I realized what I was doing and corrected it right away. That part is more about getting used to a completely different gun.

Yesterday I shot 200 rounds through it and I couldn't tell if it was the gun getting better or me or both, but I definitely felt more comfortable with it. I'm going to look around for a deal on a full case of .40S&W and I plan to run them all before I carry it.

I've also heard the same about Sigs loving lots of lube and this one seems to have plenty. It drips from everywhere and the factory grease seems excessive to me, but is probably exactly what it needs.

I also think I found the problem with the grip being uncomfortable. I was messing with it last night and finally realized that it's the way I was trying to hold it that was the problem, not the gun. Being so used to my M&P I was trying to get my grip as high as possible so that it felt like shooting the M&P. I think I found the 'sweet spot' and exactly how it's supposed to be held because even a very slight change in grip was a hell of a lot more comfortable. It's weird because it's lower, but I think if I just get used to it then it'll be fine.

90HP 12-19-2010 11:32 PM

bought some tannerite at the gun show this weekend.

also i have a usp compact 9mm in 90 percent condition for sale
ill sell everything for 550 and pay for transfer
http://forum.pafoa.org/firearms-6/12...9mm-600-a.html

~Brian~ 12-20-2010 11:03 PM

Officially reunited with my XDM :mrgreen:

cmr076 12-21-2010 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Brian~ (Post 1877743)
Officially reunited with my XDM :mrgreen:

must feel great!

~Brian~ 12-21-2010 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cmr076 (Post 1878152)
must feel great!

I feel whole again. haha

Drftpretty 12-21-2010 09:42 PM

Still looking for a saiga 12 but in the meantime, I just got a kel tec pmr30, some dan wesson cocobolo grips for the 1911, and a buddy gave me an Italian stiletto folder for a debt he owed.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/cfae7fc2.jpg
I didn't realize how damn big it was till I compared it to my daily pocket blade.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/b3d9d15e.jpg
Oh and some new vz gatorback green and black linen grips.

~Brian~ 12-22-2010 07:41 PM

Put 100 rounds through the .40 today. Felt damn good!

DC2.2GSR 12-23-2010 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ~Brian~ (Post 1879094)
Put 100 rounds through the .40 today. Felt damn good!

Saw your post in the 'ask the law' section...

Google "Brian Aitken"

Don't transport through NJ... at all. Avoid that worthless state like the plague. Mapquest another way around.

If you absolutely must travel through, and you absolutely must transport your gun, make sure you make it as inoperable as possible. Field strip it. Hell, I'd probably detail strip it if it was me. Scatter pieces throughout the car in separate locked containers and hope for the best. NJ, like Philthadelphia, refuses to obey the law so if for some random reason you get 'found out', you're completely at the mercy of the police and what mood they're in. Oh yeah, I almost forgot... take any hollow point carry ammo you have and throw it away. Buy more when you get where you are going. Do not under any circumstances bring even a single stray HP round into NJ.

I wish someone would just chop that miserable state (plus Philly) off and push it into the Atlantic.

rodder 12-23-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR (Post 1879314)
I wish someone would just chop that miserable state (plus Philly) off and push it into the Atlantic.

quoted for posterity.

...and I grew up there. :roll:

~Brian~ 12-23-2010 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR (Post 1879314)
Saw your post in the 'ask the law' section...

Google "Brian Aitken"

Don't transport through NJ... at all. Avoid that worthless state like the plague. Mapquest another way around.

If you absolutely must travel through, and you absolutely must transport your gun, make sure you make it as inoperable as possible. Field strip it. Hell, I'd probably detail strip it if it was me. Scatter pieces throughout the car in separate locked containers and hope for the best. NJ, like Philthadelphia, refuses to obey the law so if for some random reason you get 'found out', you're completely at the mercy of the police and what mood they're in. Oh yeah, I almost forgot... take any hollow point carry ammo you have and throw it away. Buy more when you get where you are going. Do not under any circumstances bring even a single stray HP round into NJ.

I wish someone would just chop that miserable state (plus Philly) off and push it into the Atlantic.


Well not only do I have to go through NJ, I have to drive through NY.....

I'm gonna leave the Critical Defense rounds in Vermont and then pull the XDM apart into tiny pieces and spread them throughout the car. I'll probably make use of that huge box air filter the Passat has. haha

enigma 12-23-2010 10:09 PM

Just a suggestion to any one with a M&P series handgun. Get a trigger job on that puppy asap. I just cut a new angle onto my sear, cutback the striker hump, and polished any contacting parts, and the trigger pull has dropped to a real sweet weight.
Just firing it with snap caps i notice a ton of difference in how much me hand moves post shot, alot easier to pull, but still nice and crisp.
Reccomended Mod!-
http://www.burwellguns.com/misc/M&Ptriggerjob.pdf

cmr076 12-24-2010 02:13 AM

i would never do a trigger job on a gun i carry, maybe it comes from having lawyer parents or maybe it is just paranoia but a trigger job in a self defense situation = prosecution trying to paint you as a terrorist.

DC2.2GSR 12-24-2010 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by enigma (Post 1879939)
Just a suggestion to any one with a M&P series handgun. Get a trigger job on that puppy asap. I just cut a new angle onto my sear, cutback the striker hump, and polished any contacting parts, and the trigger pull has dropped to a real sweet weight.
Just firing it with snap caps i notice a ton of difference in how much me hand moves post shot, alot easier to pull, but still nice and crisp.
Reccomended Mod!-
http://www.burwellguns.com/misc/M&Ptriggerjob.pdf

I was considering that for my 40C, but...

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Originally Posted by cmr076 (Post 1880072)
i would never do a trigger job on a gun i carry, maybe it comes from having lawyer parents or maybe it is just paranoia but a trigger job in a self defense situation = prosecution trying to paint you as a terrorist.

^ that's one reason I won't be doing it. The fear of extra BS from the prosecution may or may not be warranted but in my opinion the potential risk far outweighs the benefit of a nearly free trigger mod, regardless of how nice it feels. However, I have no problem with the DCAEK from Apex Tactical though, since it's not me modifying the gun myself, but a set of drop in replacement parts that can actually raise the weight of the trigger pull. Supposedly certain Govt. agencies and departments are buying Apex kits for duty weapons, and in some cases the Apex parts are on an 'approved list' of modifications. I don't have proof of that, just what I gather from some forums where the owners of the companies and officers using M&Ps post frequently. With the new M&P contracts I would bet any amount of money that they'll be searching for trigger improvements and Apex is at the top.

My 40C has a pretty nice trigger though. I've held and shot many M&Ps since buying mine and I'm convinced that I ended up with one of the best M&P triggers that rolled out of the factory. S&W's QC on internal parts is crap and there seem to be varying degrees of trigger pull sh*ttiness but mine feels great actually. It's pretty smooth, barely gritty, and it breaks relatively cleanly. I'm happy enough with it as-is, but I think I'll still buy the DCAEK eventually anyway.

enigma 12-24-2010 04:06 PM

Does the same thing as the apex, only for free. Revised sear to trigger bar profile, and revised sear to striker profile.
Unlike the kit, it maintains factory springs. The loss of resistance is due to the reduction of mechanical friction, a result of low quality controls, and to not have an extra step in the machining process of the gun.
Breaking weight is close to a average 1911, perhaps a slight bit heavier. Internal polishing of parts on your own gun is no different than buying a les baer custom carry, one you do the work yourself, and the other you buy off the shelf.
Plus the argument could be made that by reducing the trigger pull, you reduce the amount of gun movement during the shot, which will result in a more accurate shot, reducing the potential for a stray bullet in an emergency situation.

DC2.2GSR 12-24-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by enigma (Post 1880266)
Does the same thing as the apex, only for free. Revised sear to trigger bar profile, and revised sear to striker profile.
Unlike the kit, it maintains factory springs. The loss of resistance is due to the reduction of mechanical friction, a result of low quality controls, and to not have an extra step in the machining process of the gun.
Breaking weight is close to a average 1911, perhaps a slight bit heavier. Internal polishing of parts on your own gun is no different than buying a les baer custom carry, one you do the work yourself, and the other you buy off the shelf.
Plus the argument could be made that by reducing the trigger pull, you reduce the amount of gun movement during the shot, which will result in a more accurate shot, reducing the potential for a stray bullet in an emergency situation.

The Burwell mod doesn't do the same thing as the DCAEK, it's closer to the Comp AEK.

Any argument could be made, but IMO a 1911 weight trigger is unacceptable on any gun outside of a range-only gun without an external thumb safety.. like a 1911. Even with one of the safety-equipped M&Ps, the safety doesn't firmly engage like a 1911. They flop around and can become disengaged easily.

I realize that we're talking about only a few pounds difference in pull weight, but if you should happen to be involved in a SD shooting, the prosecution will definitely have the upper hand with the argument that 'you modified the internal parts yourself to unknown and uncontrolled specifications in order to give the gun a hair trigger, etc.'. It's a well known fact that 'hair trigger' is a phrase that generates fear in the average sheep that make up juries and one would do well to avoid that term being thrown around at all costs. If you buy an off-the-shelf drop in parts kit which actually keeps the factory weight or raises it in some cases, and that you could easily pay a gunsmith a few bucks to install, you have the 'prestige' of a well known parts company (that Govt. agencies and police departments are approved to use) and the expertise of a knowledgeable and experienced gunsmith to fall back on.

Again, any argument can be presented, but I would choose to go the safe route and buy everything off the shelf and have it all professionally installed for a gun that I carry. It's just a choice that I have made after reviewing all of the options. The Burwell trigger mod is a great one if it's a range gun but again, IMO, it's too light and too legally risky to have done to a carry gun. After a SD shooting you'll undoubtedly have a hell of a time defending yourself legally with a factory gun, there's no need to add another variable to the equation and make it worse.

armyguy6566 12-26-2010 08:25 PM

anyone know where i can get used guns from in NJ for cheap?


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