I agree. Its something you do for fun. I thougth that they were trying to justify holding the car for 20 years in hopes of recoping the costs.

What cars made today do you think will be classics in 25 years? I watch Meceum Auto Auctions and i think what will be valuable when we are old. I cant come up with anything excluding the exotics that are super expensive today.

The only thing that comes to mind would be a Dodge Cobra, but that is an expensive car. I think they will become classics espically since Fiat annouced that they will discontinue its production after 2011. One of Honda's lowwest production cars, the NSX doesnt seem to have the collector appeal, and that was a very nice auto.

I guess in the end, it will us who dictate what is expensive based on our tastes.

I still have fun. Honestly, since I became alergic to booze, it really hasn't changed what I do. I just don't drink while doing it. Plus I can drink I just brake out in hives really bad and all that good stuff, but I haven't died yet! lol

that my ultimate goal to own a NSX :lol:

am i missing something here?

Problem with imports, is people actually drive them lol. For some reason, the muscle car community doesn't.

you're right, the muscle car community don't generally drive imports ;)

Thanks, I now have to clean my keyboard from spilled coffee... :lol:

I was just kind of answering my question about what in production today migth be a classic we see in 25-30 years become an expensive classic.

mmm coffee... good idea

i'm just trying to figure out what a dodge cobra is and why fiat is stopping production of them :o

sorry....duhh....i meant a dodge viper. fiat owns 25% of chrysler and they are running the company now. they announced earlier this week what they intend to do with the chrysler/dodge/jeep line up in the near future.

huh, i got word close to a year ago from guys over at the srt track experience that dodge was already planning to stop producing the viper. so that isn't news.

who else owns them now though? 25% ownership really isn't enough to say "we're going to stop producing this" unless they get another 26% on board

I would love to have a Buick Grand National. Things are so nice. Maybe a Typhoon or Syclone. One day I will have one of those cars.

i want a shelby lancer big time

I want a 1968 Saab Sonett, but that ain't happening...

Its a complex structure that owns Chrysler. Ownership is primarily divided between the health care trust for retirees of the United Automobile Workers union, which has 55 percent; Fiat, which has 20 percent, and the American and Canadian governments, which hold 8 percent and 2 percent, respectively. Eventually, Fiat’s holding will grow incrementally to 35 percent. But it cannot take majority control of Chrysler until it repays money borrowed from the federal government.

Fiat has management control for the day to day operations of the company. There is a complex board arrangement but the majority of the votes belong to the US goverment. I think Fiat agreed to re-tool a Chrysler factory( which can run about $2-$3billion). That was Fiat's price to get control of Chrysler.



The Jeep Commander is slated to end next year. By 2012, the Chrysler PT Cruiser, Chrysler Sebring midsize sedan and Jeep Compass and Jeep Patriot SUVs all will exit the market. Chrysler will drop several Dodge products, including the Caliber compact, Nitro SUV and Avenger sedan, but will keep the Dodge Challenger, a muscle car, and the full-size Charger sedan.

ah. sounds good. I'm a mopar fan, but i don't keep up with their business side of things. glad to hear they're keeping the challenger... despite it being a boat

i'm a mopar fan as well. but, it did kind make me sad when i took a challenger for a ride, and relized how heave it fealt

i want a lancia delta integrale or a renault clio v6 or a shelby omni GLHS lol. woo hatchbacks lol

Has Mopar dropped out of the racing world? I heard that they no longer do alot of racing sponsorships but i am to far removed from that to know if its actually happening.

i had a buddy in high school that had a turbo omni. that little ****er was scary to ride in, :lol:

they've pulled out a lot due to their financial issues

i had an 85 omni glh... the 2.2l H.O. N/A motor...lol... i suppose it moved pretty well new w/ it's massive 110hp. I was planning on modifying it for autocross. but at the time i was broke and sold it for $300 more than i purchased it for to pay rent :roll:

i will own a glhs at some point... maybe, if i can save money up... granted, they can be found for the 1.5k range in maybe running condition. but 3-4k gets you one that has been worked on pretty decently

2 hours to go :)

and they move for a car from 86...

i've been told by a few ex grand national owners and friends of grand national owners that back in the mid 80's the omni glhs was one of the cars they hated coming across on the road

my buddies was turbo, but, it was rusting, and multi colored panels. it moved, but i felt like it was going to fall apart

3k for sale right now...



http://www.turbododge.com/forums/att...0-dsc_0783.jpg

glh-t... so no intercooler...

**** you Ryan... i just inquired about a red one with a 2.5 T2 swap for 2k...

I like your taste. I also want a Lancia Delta Integrale EVO 2

http://www.italiaspeed.com/2004/cars...al_edition.jpg

What racing world are you talking about?

lmfao

Any type of professional racing, from the highest ranks to free-bee's to weekend racers.

and another one for 4k that needs to be put back together but comes with a bunch of stuff... hopefully it is still available and they'll come down on price...

god damnit....

A manual fusion will be a rare collector item one day

found one in Michigan for 4.7k.. its pretty clean looking w/ only 77k miles. turbo model.

saw one while i was there for my grandparents 50th aniv... i went to take a pic of it but it was gone by then :(, it was for sale too.

the 2k one i'm looking at is in Michigan. red with a black stripe... if i can get them down on the price to like 1500 i may bite... haha... cause i seriously need a third car!

just found 412 on autotrader alone. try finding a manual landrover, and not the really old ass ones.

warning though, michigan does not require inspection... scary. And the roads suck.

Many roads in MI are better that the PA Turnpike or I95...

Try to find a 1995 BMW 540i M-sport 6-speed. Only 165 of them puppies made. :-p